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  • Hello! I wanted to let you know the reason I added Anne, Inukichi, Hel, and Nyoze to certain vocaloid categories! Here ( https://twitter.com/mothy_akuno/status/1016753176387641344 ) mothy tweeted his wip of working on Song of the Third Period, which had characters listed which were translated to be, in order, Michaela, Arte, Lukana, Mei, Clarith, Inukichi, Germaine, Gumillia, Mikulia, Hel, Anne, Kyle, Pollo, and Nyoze. The ones I changed are the same case as Behemo and Levia, so I don't see why they shouldn't be considered to be represented by the vocaloids they are shown to be voiced by? Thank you in advance for your time! (Also yeah I did mess up and put Anne as Len, but that was just a mistype -_-)

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    • Hi. To address your point, I don’t think Anne, Hel and Inukichi are the same case as Behemo and Levia. There is nothing tying them to any Rin, Luka or Len characters appearance or plot-wise. This is opposed to Levia and Behemo, whose clones are Kagamines. Behemo is also noted as resembling Kokutan. However, for Anne, Hel and Inukichi, nothing in the narration states that they look like any existing Rin, Luka or Len characters.

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    • Ah, that's fair, yes, but then what about Elluka Chirclatia? She doesn't typically resemble Luka but is still listed as a Luka due to being voiced by Luka? Same with MA, although I recognize there's more leniance with her since she formerly had Lukana's body

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    • There is plot significance to Elluka and Ma being Luka characters. Way back before we knew that Elluka Chirclatia and Elluka Clockworker were different people, Elluka Chirclatia was viewed as being a Luka character because she would one day be the Elluka we know from Daughter of Evil in Lukana's body, and that connection is still important since Elluka Clockworker being a different person entirely is a twist (and, also, Elluka Clockworker the Luka character inhabits her body all the same). Ma, similarly, previously inhabited Lukana Octo's body and has a connection to Elluka Clockworker, to a point that for a long time viewers were led to believe that she was the same person.

      Basically, it's the difference between mothy making a conscious choice to connect the characters in some way and just, using any Vocaloid for them that might happen to fit just so they can have singing lines.

      For example, Anne being voiced by Rin and Mariam being voiced by MAYU. We already know that the characters are based on Sweet Ann and Miriam, but the songs featuring them used different Vocaloids presumably because Sweet Ann is an English vocaloid and Miriam isn't available anymore, not because mothy necessarily wants to say that Mariam is a Mayu or Anne a Rin character.

      For now, that's the assumption for the "non-Vocaloid" characters that mothy has voiced with Vocaloids. Presumably it's just because they wouldn't get to have lines if he didn't do that.

      And we've already gone over all this before, so I'd recommend checking through the Clockwork Lullaby album thread for more thoughts on this.

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    • (Edit: Oh Octo replied first)

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    • Of course, this is all a result of mothy beginning the series as a purely Vocaloid thing where every character is based on one of the different Vocaloids ala Hitoshizuku-P's works, and then playing faster and looser with it with each novel installment, but this is what we're going with until we probably inevitably decide to drop the "represented by X" thing entirely and just make it "voiced by" or something.

      fkgskfgkk sorry GT

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    • XD makes sense!! thank you for the explanation! i'll be sure to read through that!

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