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  • This is a thread for discussion on the novel Deadly Sins of Evil: The Lunacy of Duke Venomania. All comments, theories, and discussion of info related to this novel goes here. As always, please keep all replies concise, productive and civil.

    Price has begun translating content not covered by the wiki, and so several pages are in need of updates. If anyone can sign up for jobs, that would be great.

    TO-DO LIST

    • Sateriasis Venomania
    • Irina Clockworker (Octo)
    • Minor character sections
      • Marcs Donald
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    • First off, and although this is a bit late to say, I just wanted to inform everyone that Price is doing a translation of the novel.

      Second, who's willing to make a complete summary of the novel once it's done being translated? It will go on the novel page.

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    • I might do it but I don't know how to make a summary. My summaries are sometimes too detailed or too simple. 

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    • The Gift novel's summary is a good peg. If you're up to the task, you can draft a summary in your Sandbox while I guide you.

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    • In novel's prologue part:

      At the sight of him, IR recalled the first time she had ever killed a person herself.

      It had been her older brother’s fiancée. She had been a fit, unprecedented, and prodigious sorceress–and a kind person.

      Does this mean Irina didn't kill Ly Li and Milky Eights?

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    • Ma Survival is pretty vague even with the PV. I'm going to interpret it to mean that Elluka is the first person she personally killed with her own hands. She could have killed Ly Li and Milky Eights by leading them into a dangerous situation that she knew would kill them or by traps. Maybe Milky really did commit suicide but the true reason why was because of Irina. There are tons of possibilities. The point being that Irina probably considers the murder of Elluka to be her first true act of murder. 

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    • Milky is shown being strangled by the rope which Irina then hoists her up with, so it's unlikely she actually did commit suicide. Still true though, whether Irina killed them herself or orchestrated their deaths with traps, their deaths were far less physically personal than Elluka's.

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    • Can somebody else make a complete summary of the novel? If I do it, I will probably finish reading late since I read very slowly. I also feel like I am losing interest in the novel since I already read character pages and know what will happen.

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    • I'd be willing to write the summary if RadiantHope doesn't want to. It might take me a little bit to get it done after Price finishes, but I'd probably be able to finish it after a day or so. I can actually start writing a bit of it now using the prologue and the first three chapters she's done so far if you guys want me to.

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    • ooo/ it'd be appreciated, thank you!

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    • I finished writing a rough draft of the summary for the prologue and first chapter if anyone wants to look that over and help me size it down or add anything I should. I know it's a bit verbose, but I wanted to start big so I could cut it down >.<. I put it in my Sandbox.

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    • The summary on the page already covers up to chapter 2 (and the extra chapter at the end.) It should give you an idea of how much detail to include. Sorry fkdgksdfk

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    • Just wanted to announce that, beginning with this scene, Price has started translating content not covered by the wiki.

      In light of this, I've made a list of the pages that need updating. As usual, it would be great if people could sign up for jobs.

      TO-DO LIST

      • Sateriasis Venomania
      • Martius Marlon (Chapter 4 updates done)
      • Yufina Marlon
      • Irina Clockworker (Octo)
      • Karchess Crim
      • Minor character sections
        • Marcs Donald
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    • I call Irina

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    • If anyone could update the links to Gumina's father to include his full name (Classke Glassred) that would be great.

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    • Can anyone work on the minor character section for Marcs Donald? All the information about him is in this scene.

      Also, I've updated the first post on this thread to include all the pages that need updates at this point.

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    • From the latest 2 scenes translated, there's a lot of info to dissect, but one catches my eyes.

      Witnis Truth (who we are now very sure is in fact Cherubim's guard after years of thinking they were separate people) mentions he's only literate because his ex-wife worked with medicine. It's also noted he is old, therefore, so would his wife.

      Then the very next scene, talks about the elderly Annlee Sweets, a former doctor, being added to the harem.

      I think since the mention of his ex-wife working with medicine is oddly specific and followed up with the mention of someone fitting that description pretty much exactly, it's a direct implication Annlee is his ex-wife.

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    • I completely agree, although since the novel is nearing completion anyway I feel like it wouldn't hurt to wait to see if the novel confirms that more clearly before adding it.

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    • https://lunacyofdukevenomania.tumblr.com/post/177206212361/chapter-6-elluka-clockworker-scene-2 https://lunacyofdukevenomania.tumblr.com/post/177211324241/chapter-6-elluka-clockworker-scene-3

      On a more relevant note, Eve talks in the newest scene.

      She claims to be an associate of Gilles, introduces herself as Mikulia to Mikulia then decides to be called "Demon Mikulia". She's been sentient the whole time Mikulia's had the doll but hasn't bothered to say anything up till now. Also the doll's lips moves, and there's really no cue, at least to me, to suggest it's an illusion (either mothy hadn't thought of that mechanic at the time, just didn't hint at it, or maybe the doll just... does that. No specific mention of a jaw hinge like some dolls have.)

      Mikulia's grandmother lived to be 100, and it was then she moved to Mikulia as a host. Eve claims she never actively did anything to either of them.

      Then Eve says something about IR at first believing Mikulia being Held sect stopped Veno's spell from affecting her, and Eve says while it's not incorrect, it wouldn't have full-stopped the spell like her own "demonic" influence did.

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    • That Held sect thing matches the report's note that there's one religious sect in particular accusing Venomania of being the culprit--so it's likely the Held sect is afforded a little protection from demonic magic (maybe just the memory-wiping ritual.) Could be a "blessing" thing like how Michaela was able to give blessings to protect Clarith and Josephine from Gift.

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    • In Chapter 6 Scene 1, Venomania says Lolan died because she had weak spiritual energy. Then says It was weak because she was a lesbian. So is there any connection between sexual preferences and spiritual energy?

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    • The relation is that her spiritual energy was weak because he forcefully changed a key part of her identity. It did not start out weak just because she was a lesbian.

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    • So spiritual energy is personality?

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    • No.

      Spiritual energy is part of your overall vitality (like, life-force), and it's part of your magical energy (hence why Lukana's is strong). Being under the effects of heavy magical influence apparently weakens your spiritual energy. In essence, Lolan's energy was weak because the demon was exerting so much more power over her than the other women in order to keep her true sexuality suppressed.

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    • With only the epilogue and bonus chapter left, I think it's time to get started on the updates, as a lot of information in the novel isn't currently covered by the wiki.

      I've listed the tasks from hardest to easiest, so feel free to sign up for jobs. Thanks guys.

      TO-DO LIST

      • Sateriasis Venomania
      • Karchess Crim
      • Elluka Clockworker
      • Maylis Beelzenia
      • Lukana Octo
      • Mikulia Greeonio
      • Gumina Glassred
      • Martius Beelzenia
      • Tae Conchita
      • Janus Beelzenia
      • Febria Beelzenia
      • Aprilis Beelzenia
      • Neruneru Nerune
      • Annlee Sweets
      • Magic (add note in Mechanics about how spiritual energy is part of magic potential)
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    • Could we add to Leuno Dino's section that he's possibly represented by Leon? Their names are similar, Leuno could be a reference to Leon being the first Vocaloid, and this is the Lust arc where there's a precedent for minor characters being represented by Vocaloids.

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    • but, I called Irina already ;w;

      I don't know about that. The only minor characters who are Vocaloids are the harem members, which is probably because that was a joke originating in the PV. Everyone else is an original design.

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    • The epilogue of the Lunacy of Duke Venomania is up, we finally get some clarification on a few things.

      Now we know why the only descendants of Venomania we've gotten through the years are the Conchitas and the Octos, smh

      Kinda sad to see that IR had actually started to like Venomania by the end. Just like Elluka everyone she likes dies.

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    • So while I tried to dig for information about the real sateriasis, I noticed that they say that cherubim wasn't born nameless, Ilotte took his name away when he decided to lock him away, and when he was given the name Cherubim he wasn't allowed a surname. Despite that the mothy album credits him as "Cherubim Venomania" so it seems most likely that Cherubim Venomania was his birthname, and Ilotte gave "Cherubim" back to him when he became a servant.

      Ilotte's second wife is explicitly stated to have green hair yet her icon on the minor characters page is red haired. Who ever that woman is, she isn't Ilotte's wife.

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    • From this scene:

      • I was given the new name of “Cherubim”, and came to work as a servant of the Venomania family.

      The phrasing makes it sound like he didn't have the name Cherubim previously, otherwise it would be more of, as you said, "I got my name back" or something along those lines.

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    • I don't think Cherubim would remember what he was originally born as.

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    • Where does it say Cherubim wasn't born nameless though?

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    • Elluka scene 2

      "“The boy had even the name he was given stolen from him. He was imprisoned in the mansion’s basement as a 'demon child’."

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    • I would not say that calling him "Cherubim Venomania" in the mothy album is enough evidence to say that it was his birth name. From the way characters talk about it (like Witnis), his original name was lost and Cherubim is entirely new.

      Also, as for the wife on the minor character's page, her hair is only red because it's a cropped image taken from a portrait that is entirely filtered in red.

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    • Yeah it's entirely possible that Cherubim Venomania was his name after he was let out of the basement. Which, it's surprising that he even got to have his last name, but still. Maybe Sateriasis insisted on it even if Cherubim didn't get to have his inheritance.

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    • Just a minor thing, is everyone fine with assuming Witnis Truth's ex-wife is Annlee Sweets?

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    • It seems very likely but imo the wiki should hold off without direct confirmation. But maybe it mentions it in Waltz somewhere?

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    • I highly doubt it's confirmed anywhere, but I'd rather it be adressed on here in some manner than just left hanging as a really obvious implication.

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    • I'm on the fence about what we should say about Annlee Sweets. Would it be so unprofessional if in a minor character page we say "his wife, possibly referring to Annlee Sweets, was a doctor"? or something like that.

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    • I would just take the leap to assuming his wife and Annlee are the same and mention both in the other's respective sections rather than a tack-on like that.

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    • Bringing this back. I'm seeing majority being for assuming that Annlee is Witnis' ex-wife. I'll be opening this discussion for 12 hours if anyone has anything more to say.

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    • As per PriceCheck's post, it seems that the entire Lunacy novel does take place within EC 136, which means our information that Karchess killed Venomania the following year is incorrect. Any help in correcting this would be very much appreciated.

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