So I think this could be worthy of a trivia section, but in the myths, Nemesis was the on responsible for Narcissus' death. Narcissus drove his suitors to suicide(he would literally give them swords and tell them to run them through themselves) and Nemesis as the goddess of retribution decided to punish him by cursing a pool of water so that when he saw his reflection he fell in love with it.(And then he wasted away by that pool)
Maybe it doesn't parallel EC Nem and Narci but I like that there is a form of connection.
I supse if Narcissus could get his own page maybe it could be brought up that his mythological counterpart was punished by nemesis
Or on Nemesis page it could be put as a curiosity like "In mythology, Nemesis was the goddess that cursed Narcissus to fall in love with his own reflection" and then something about how in Ec Narcissus seems to have a crush on Nemesis.
I have realized there are some interesting things about Nemesis and the other members of zeus and how it all sort of connects. Sorry for sounding like a conspiracy theorist here but there are some thing i think could be noted in connection to the greek myths.
Themis was a daughter of Gaia and Ouranus, Ouranus was also the created son of Gaia so Themis mother and father were also her grandmother and half-brother, Just like EC's Nemesis.
Heracles is noted for having wrath as his flaw, this was uncommon as most greek heroes were know for having pride being their main flaw. Connects to Racle beign a character in the wrath arc.
Helios is a god Heracles tried to take his anger out on. His other equivalent, Apollo was also the son of Zeus.
Dionysus helped Nemesis with one of her punishments (It's kinda complicated but basically a nymph had been toying with people's hearts So Eros asked Nemesis to do something and Nemesis told Dionysus to sleep with the nymph and leave her a single mother)
Eileithyia was the goddess of childbirth and was involved with helping to deliver most of Zeus' children. She was also one of Zeus' daughters.
Basically the only ones who haven't in some version been a child of Zeus are Narcissus, Nemesis, and Gaia.
Dionysus was not only god of wine, he was the god of rebirth. (It is also a complicated story with many diffrent versions but one is that he was originally the son of Persephone and Hades and got killed but Zeus saved him by placing his intact heart in a mortal woman. However because Dionysus was a full god he ended up completly waporizing her when he was reborn. It's almost like Irregular Adam.)
Nemesis was the queen of the Greek equivalent of Hell, Tartarus. This is because she was married to the god of that world, who was also named Tartarus.
Idk most of these seem like "hey this is neat" factoids more than trivia actually relevant to the specific characters who share these names. There isn't even a place to put most of these even if they were relevant trivia since they almost exclusively concern minor characters, and I'm having a hard time imagining how you'd word these.
At this stage, the only ones that I think could have been an intentional connection by mothy is the first one (the Themis one) and maybe the last one (that Mythological Nemesis was queen of a section of the Underworld where horrible monsters and the gods' enemies were imprisoned,) though I couldn't find a lot on that one from Google.
For the rest of them, the characters are so minor and have so little personal impact on the plot that I can't see most of these being intentional, so I'm gonna say no for now, they're not trivia worthy.
I'm still pretty sure that Michaelas nickname „Grüne“ means „the green one“ in english. „Die Grüne“ is a noun and it's just the term for a green girl. If it was a boy it would be „der Grüne.“ the color green just means „grün“ in german and it's an adjective.
I'm pretty sure this is correct because german is my native language.
I changed it back to "green one" as you might have noticed, I realized that I was wrong. Thank you for the clarification, however! My only experience with the term "grüne" has just been that it's an alteration of "grün", I didn't realize it was a noun in and of itself.
I wanted to discuss my reasoning for the edits on the minor characters page.
My main thing is that other joke names have been taken seriously in the past. My main one is “Tette Cetera”, because that name is at the end of the list, and it seems to be a pun based on “etcetera”. While I agree that those names are jokes, they were included in the PV, and so were other joke names like “Tette Cetera” and “Neruneru Nerune”. While those names are ridiculous, this series is filled with ridiculous names. Yes, they don’t appear in the novels, but neither does Shick Rock, Nainai Kyuuzu, Heil Goon, etc.
I hope that you understand my reasoning. I won’t undo the edit unless you say so. If you disagree, then I won’t undo the edit. Thank you for understanding.
The key thing is not "these names are too silly to include", it's "these characters clearly don't exist outside of these names being used to service a joke".
Tette Cetera and Neruneru Nerune are both terrible examples to compare because they both exist in the Venomania novel and have a small impact on the plot, with social status and occupations and everything. As for the others that don't show up anyywhere, their names are punny, but they aren't clearly just a vehicle through which mothy can spell out a secret message.
Yeah essentially what the anon said. The names are purely a means of putting a secret message in the PV. All the other "ridiculous" names we've included in the lists are just ridiculous because mothy likes his puns/can't Western names
I might not mind putting them down somewhere, but I think it's disingenuous to treat them as something more than joke characters (ones which all exist to service one joke), which is what happens when you give them a specific character history.
Hey, thanks for taking care of the spam/death threats left on my message wall. That was the user we've been trying to keep out via ranged blocks over on Vocaloid Wikia. She basically didn't like that I confronted her yesterday and pretty much unraveled and resorted to sending me death threats on other wikias and on my UTAU's twitter/email lol.
I don't know if you remember me but I know when I was on here alot me and you chatted and even did some venomania rps ( I so hope I have the right person if I don't sorry ) ;_; anyways I actually remembered my password for wiki and I just wanted to say hi
I've been thinking about disambiguations and i think the should be brought up again. Since we don't have disambiguation pages of two things that share the same name. We should remove the MotG disambiguation page since it's only Banica and the song.
We should also include all types of disambiguations that can be connected to a person like in any of these examples.
They can be worded in a diffrent way but this would make it easier to get around.
Since Sleep Princess and Santa claus are aliases shared by three people, they could use disambiguation pages. Pere Noel might need one for gallerian, the organization, and PN.
Redirects that could be useful
Evil's Forest and Evil's Theater for the albums and the locations
Margarita Blankenheim for the incarnation and Michelle
Julia Abelard for Mayrana and Julia
Demon of Gluttony for Vlad and Banica
Seventh Magican for Yuzette and Elluka
Adam for the Moonlit and irregular
And if they get pages, we could used redirects for Eve and Sateriasis.
There's some typos and grammatical errors I'd prefer for you to fix (for example, "consiquences",) especially in the Venomania articles but "the Chase for the Seven deadly sinners" is something from the four endings characters sections that looks really unprofessional.
Otherwise my only issue is that we don't know if Mikulia's mother treated her worse than the father just because Mikulia had a particular nickname for her.
Well the easiest option is self-publishing, but self-publishing doesn't yield the best results in terms of readership. There's some websites and companies out there that offer that, Lulu.com and Channillo.com are some examples off the top of my head. Although Channillo is different in that you'd be publishing your work as an actual installment-based series, and it will cost money for membership.
Traditional publishing would involve sending query letters to publishing companies in hopes they'll pick up your manuscript (or in hiring an agent I guess > >.) Googling "How to write a good query letter for a publisher" should turn up some good results on that. It'd also be a good idea to look up the publisher you have in mind and see if they have guidelines on submissions, like the format they'd want it to be in or the genre they're looking for, especially if it's an online company. I know that typically they're going to want to see the first three chapters of your book, or at least three chapters in general, either before or after the query letter. And don't put it in a fancy font, they hate that
I must stress that your manuscript be as polished and completed as possible at the time that you start submitting it places, especially the sample that the publishers will be reading.
If publishers aren't biting it's a good idea to keep trying to build a name for yourself in the publishing business. I've been advised that even stuff like submitting poems or short stories to magazines, even if it's not the work you want published, will help when it comes to the writing world.