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Octofan

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  • I live in United State of Evillious
  • I was born on May 1
  • My occupation is Novelist
  • I am Female

Hello there stranger! OOO/ or just regular person I don't know, I'm just a recording BEEP

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  • I'll be happy to edit or revise any page you need me to, I can see you're a pretty relevant Fandom user here on this wiki.

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  • So I think this could be worthy of a trivia section, but in the myths, Nemesis was the on responsible for Narcissus' death. Narcissus drove his suitors to suicide(he would literally give them swords and tell them to run them through themselves) and Nemesis as the goddess of retribution decided to punish him by cursing a pool of water so that when he saw his reflection he fell in love with it.(And then he wasted away by that pool)

    Maybe it doesn't parallel EC Nem and Narci but I like that there is a form of connection.

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    • And here I was told Alphrodite was the one who cursed him.

      It is a nice connection but seeing as Nemesis isn't responsible for Narcissus' death I'm not sure where or how you would write the trivia up.

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    • I supse if Narcissus could get his own page maybe it could be brought up that his mythological counterpart was punished by nemesis

      Or on Nemesis page it could be put as a curiosity like "In mythology, Nemesis was the goddess that cursed Narcissus to fall in love with his own reflection" and then something about how in Ec Narcissus seems to have a crush on Nemesis.

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    • I have realized there are some interesting things about Nemesis and the other members of zeus and how it all sort of connects. Sorry for sounding like a conspiracy theorist here but there are some thing i think could be noted in connection to  the greek myths.

      • Themis was a daughter of Gaia and Ouranus, Ouranus was also the created son of Gaia so Themis mother and father were also her grandmother and half-brother, Just like EC's Nemesis.
      • Heracles is noted for having wrath as his flaw, this was uncommon as most greek heroes were know for having pride being their main flaw. Connects to Racle beign a character in the wrath arc.
      • Helios is a god Heracles tried to take his anger out on. His other equivalent, Apollo was also the son of Zeus.
      • Dionysus helped Nemesis with one of her punishments (It's kinda complicated but basically a nymph had been toying with people's hearts So Eros asked Nemesis to do something and Nemesis told Dionysus to sleep with the nymph and leave her a single mother)
      • Eileithyia was the goddess of childbirth and was involved with helping to deliver most of Zeus' children. She was also one of Zeus' daughters.
      • Basically the only ones who haven't in some version been a child of Zeus are Narcissus, Nemesis, and Gaia.
      • Dionysus was not only god of wine, he was the god of rebirth. (It is also a complicated story with many diffrent versions but one is that he was originally the son of Persephone and Hades and got killed but Zeus saved him by placing his intact heart in a mortal woman. However because Dionysus was a full god he ended up completly waporizing her when he was reborn. It's almost like Irregular Adam.)
      • Nemesis was the queen of the Greek equivalent of Hell, Tartarus. This is because she was married to the god of that world, who was also named Tartarus.
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    • Idk most of these seem like "hey this is neat" factoids more than trivia actually relevant to the specific characters who share these names. There isn't even a place to put most of these even if they were relevant trivia since they almost exclusively concern minor characters, and I'm having a hard time imagining how you'd word these.

      At this stage, the only ones that I think could have been an intentional connection by mothy is the first one (the Themis one) and maybe the last one (that Mythological Nemesis was queen of a section of the Underworld where horrible monsters and the gods' enemies were imprisoned,) though I couldn't find a lot on that one from Google.

      For the rest of them, the characters are so minor and have so little personal impact on the plot that I can't see most of these being intentional, so I'm gonna say no for now, they're not trivia worthy.

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  • Ayy I just logged onto Titanpad and I guess it doesn't exist anymore??? It says 404 not found, message me on Deviantart in PM's so we can discuss somewhere else to go ;w; 

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  • What do you think of this one? X (also, should I make a new chain every time I send you a recommendation or should I just make one and keep adding to it?)

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    • Yeee looks fine to me

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    • thank you !

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  • I'm still pretty sure that Michaelas nickname „Grüne“ means „the green one“ in english. „Die Grüne“ is a noun and it's just the term for a green girl. If it was a boy it would be „der Grüne.“ the color green just means „grün“ in german and it's an adjective. I'm pretty sure this is correct because german is my native language.

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    • I changed it back to "green one" as you might have noticed, I realized that I was wrong. Thank you for the clarification, however! My only experience with the term "grüne" has just been that it's an alteration of "grün", I didn't realize it was a noun in and of itself.

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  • I wanted to discuss my reasoning for the edits on the minor characters page.

    My main thing is that other joke names have been taken seriously in the past. My main one is “Tette Cetera”, because that name is at the end of the list, and it seems to be a pun based on “etcetera”. While I agree that those names are jokes, they were included in the PV, and so were other joke names like “Tette Cetera” and “Neruneru Nerune”. While those names are ridiculous, this series is filled with ridiculous names. Yes, they don’t appear in the novels, but neither does Shick Rock, Nainai Kyuuzu, Heil Goon, etc.

    I hope that you understand my reasoning. I won’t undo the edit unless you say so. If you disagree, then I won’t undo the edit. Thank you for understanding.

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    • The key thing is not "these names are too silly to include", it's "these characters clearly don't exist outside of these names being used to service a joke".

      Tette Cetera and Neruneru Nerune are both terrible examples to compare because they both exist in the Venomania novel and have a small impact on the plot, with social status and occupations and everything. As for the others that don't show up anyywhere, their names are punny, but they aren't clearly just a vehicle through which mothy can spell out a secret message.

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    • Yeah essentially what the anon said. The names are purely a means of putting a secret message in the PV. All the other "ridiculous" names we've included in the lists are just ridiculous because mothy likes his puns/can't Western names

      I might not mind putting them down somewhere, but I think it's disingenuous to treat them as something more than joke characters (ones which all exist to service one joke), which is what happens when you give them a specific character history.

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    • I understand. That might not have been the best place to put the names. It would be better if the names were mentioned in the trivia section of the song's page, if not already done so.

      I understand wholeheartedly, and I apologize.

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    • It's no problem dude 0o0/ it probably would be a good idea to add this into the trivia, they don't seem to be there right now.

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  • Hey, thanks for taking care of the spam/death threats left on my message wall. That was the user we've been trying to keep out via ranged blocks over on Vocaloid Wikia. She basically didn't like that I confronted her yesterday and pretty much unraveled and resorted to sending me death threats on other wikias and on my UTAU's twitter/email lol.

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  • I don't know if you remember me but I know when I was on here alot me and you chatted and even did some venomania rps ( I so hope I have the right person if I don't sorry ) ;_; anyways I actually remembered my password for wiki and I just wanted to say hi

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    • Yo! Yeah I think I remember you made the Venomania doll 0 0

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  • I've been thinking about disambiguations and i think the should be brought up again. Since we don't have disambiguation pages of two things that share the same name. We should remove the MotG disambiguation page since it's only Banica and the song.

    We should also include all types of disambiguations that can be connected to a person like in any of these examples.

    DisambiguationExRiliane1
    DisambiguationExMotC
    Conchitadisambiguation
    They can be worded in a diffrent way but this would make it easier to get around.

    Since Sleep Princess and Santa claus are aliases shared by three people, they could use disambiguation pages. Pere Noel might need one for gallerian, the organization, and PN.

    Redirects that could be useful

    Evil's Forest and Evil's Theater for the albums and the locations Margarita Blankenheim for the incarnation and Michelle Julia Abelard for Mayrana and Julia Demon of Gluttony for Vlad and Banica Seventh Magican for Yuzette and Elluka Adam for the Moonlit and irregular

    And if they get pages, we could used redirects for Eve and Sateriasis.

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  • I did some minor character sections for some venomania and four endings characters, is it ok to post them?

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    • There's some typos and grammatical errors I'd prefer for you to fix (for example, "consiquences",) especially in the Venomania articles but "the Chase for the Seven deadly sinners" is something from the four endings characters sections that looks really unprofessional.

      Otherwise my only issue is that we don't know if Mikulia's mother treated her worse than the father just because Mikulia had a particular nickname for her.

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    • I think I fixed the sections now.

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    • Well, you made the Heavenly ones inaccurate. The souls weren't sucked up during the fight against Ma, they were sucked up during the fight against Gammon's Tasan forces.

      Fix that and you can post them. And make sure that "leanred" from Greoonio (mother) is corrected.

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