1) Yes

2) no

3) ***

4) Sorrow or Despair, either is fine to me

***I was originally going to say no then I remembered what the Black Box (at least Allen's) did. It taught him the history of the world, so I suppose those are recorded bios of the candidates (there's even soundwave/graph effects in the background if you wanna make that connection). At least that's what I'm getting from it. But I'm on the fence.

In this case of Sins, I think they would all be synonyms anyway. Sorrow and depression are both forms of sadness, and this sad feelings would be what cause Sloth(lack of motivation), not that Irina is slothful. The difference is, I think, sorrow is more connected to guilt whereas depression is not. Irina doesn't seem to feel guilty about killing the other three, she does however feel depressed because her brother loves Elluka more then he loves her, so I would use depression over sorrow in this case.

1) Yes

2) I'm not sure

3) Yes

4) I'm not a translator, but I'm also neutral either way

I would advise against using Depression, considering we're talking about the Eight Evil Thoughts and depression is a mental illness and... you get what I'm saying?

You are thinking of clinical depression, and Irina doesn't seem to have that. You can be depressed with out have depression. Either way, you might be right about not wanting to use it, despair works just as well here.

The issue is more so that different sources (both in English and Japanese) widely vary in the English translation for this, including depression. For the Japanese terminology itself, the word for depression/meloncholy is used.

Regardless, I'm seeing a majority in favor of Dany's postulation, against assuming Kiril is holding Grim the End for now, mixed on the Black Box topic, and heavily in favor of using "Sorrow" as the translation. I'll give all but the Black Box portion a pass then so we can move on with articles.

To give the topic elaboration: the beginning of the PV gives us the "Black Box Archive" where information for the four potential candidates are provided along with a black grid that's commonly used in association with other black boxes in the series. The very mention of it assures it's not going to go unlisted but do users feel that this look into the "archive" counts as an appearance of the box itself?

Um...yes? That makes me get a vibe that it is what Alexiel is seeing, so that means the black box is actually the one showing us that information. Also, for the sorrow vs despair, isn't it 2-2? It is still a tie.

Yeap

Scarletta, Dany, Misstress, Astrophysics Person prefer Sorrow; Emuei prefers depression, the others are neutral :I

Hi, Just passing by Because I want to say something about The Sorrow/Despair/Sadness stuff. People are saying "Irina isn't depressed" and all... But you're interpreting This Sin In A modern way. Not with The context. The Eight Evil Thoughts were The ancestors of The Seven Deadly Sins. Sadness is In fact The ancestor of Envy : That The Sin That replaced sorrow In The Seven. Because Sadness was The fact to be sad when you're comparing Your Life to The other's,You where desesperate Because You couldn't reach The state of Life of The others, You abandon all hope Because You can't obtain what You want and what other have. So This old interpretation of sadness corresponds better with The jealous Irina, No ? (Sorry for The bad english I'm french)

I see what you did there, Dany. ;P

And yeah, Lexi miscounted. If we want to argue it further, then I'll include my opinion that Sorrow is my preference as well.

What I've read actually says it was later merged with Sloth and Envy was added separately but nice interpretation all the same. It's important to point out the meanings in these contexts are not necessarily the same as general modern use (vainglory's become synonymous with vanity or hubris, for instance).

To get back to the infobox image suggestions, I'd also like to add the possibility of updating our Original Sin Story characters section. Kiril's got an article and a face now and Levia, Behemo, Milky, Ly, and Pale might be prominent enough to count.