Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-6192846-20150326001739/@comment-6192846-20150403122327

DemonDamian wrote: So... since Seth is the "Father" of all HERs, does that mean he was the "father" Irina referred to back in the Venomania Manga? You know, the one that made the spoon It's possible, but Venomania's immediate answer refers to a Clockworker as creator, not Seth Twiright. So either Irina fibbed about Kiril or someone being her father, or they did have an adopted father that gave them the Clockworker name (the novel doesn't clarify all their family situations, just says Irina was put in as Kiril's little sister).

110.22.55.215 wrote: Hey, here's a question. This book clearly point to all the vessels being made by Seth. With that in mind...how does the doll factor into this? Hansel tells Allen in SCAP that the doll functions as a soul jar that simply housed Eve's corrupted soul, does that mean Seth foresaw what would happen to Eve? How? Or is there something else at play here? If Seth made all the vessels the demons currently reside in (save for Eve), it would probably be that he only thought of the six actual demons possessing them and not himself. After all, if there were only six actual demons, no need for a seventh vessel. We don't know why H&G used Eve's soul in place of a seventh. But who knows? Maybe Seth only made the Venom Sword and Grimm the End.