Talk:Karchess Crim/@comment-7342272-20130429194333/@comment-6192846-20130429201256

We don't know all the details or the circumstances concerning Kachess and the key. For all we know, Elluka gave him the key, or Irina was two-timing Venomania, or who knows what. Perhaps the Demon possessed him briefly but wasn't "satisfied" by his sin, or maybe it never possessed him and couldn't cause the epitome. Maybe destiny plays a role in this and each sinner was fated to commit their sin by the great I-don't-know-what of the universe.

To make a needlessly long post tl;dr'd: Yes, before Wrath. I don't know. Why are you asking me? :P