Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-6986530-20131211045616/@comment-6986530-20140105183444

//is late

(I more of meant the argument for Banica and Irregular could still be discussed here since it pertains to the Heavenly Yard story ^ ^;; but I will address both things. I am also going to point out that you should cut down on the offensive language when bringing up points in a discussion thread.)

The argument "it sounds better" that you are railing against was not made to throw out official spellings in favor of personal preference, and it has never been used to throw out an offical spelling--look towards Held and Chirclatia for examples of this, where pretty much everyone hates the change and yet we fixed the articles anyway. (And people are allowed to voice their disapproval of a change on their own time. Telling them to "fuck off" is just uncalled for.)

What the "it sounds better" argument actually means is that, in cases where official spellings are not available, it is up to the users to decide, based on in-story cues or comparisons to existing names and words (See Tarner=Turner, Sateriajis=Sateriasis, Maruchiusi=Martius, and Meilis=Maylis) which name sounds more accurate. When it comes to actually making the changes on the wiki, mothy's word when available and as near as we can guess has always been the end-all to a discussion, even if disliking how a name sounds prompted a closer look into what might be more accurate. This is why your argument that we are not doing things "mothy's way" is coming off as us not doing things "your way" as demonstrated by posters above me.

In conclusion, determining what "mothy style" is when it comes to spellings is going to be guesswork no matter what until we get official word. Silent H or not, "Held" being spelled the way it was was not indicated at all by the existing romaji. Judging by the comments of some of our translators, "Chirclatia" was also out of left field for the Japanese that initially got us "Chirkrassia." Not to say that a name's romaji isn't a huge part of how a decision is made, but just saying that unless you have an official source listing all the correct spellings for every character (in which case we'd love to see it :P) your argument on what is intended is no more valid than the rest.

Now, when it comes to Banica an the demon of Gluttony, I think it's already been stated that she took the demon's place as opposed to the demon just changing form, right? I've already suggested that this informaton and her activities as the new demon be added to her page, with the appropriate acknowledgements on the Gluttony page.

For her and Master of the Graveyard, as well as Irregular and Allen, I think everyone now has stated we should wait on merging the pages? The main point, for me, is that until we discover how those two got to be how they are, we can't say if this is a Robin/Michaela/Millenium Tree deal, a H&G Reincarnation deal, or something else altogether. Misstress, to use one of your examples to argue my point, it's clear that the MotG's Servants are Hansel and Gretel, but if they came from the same place as the MotG they must not have been "pushed out of someone's hooha" either. The pages are still separate, though. We don't know what the deal is this time. It might be explained in closer translations. Judging by the statements in Evil's Forest and their other appearances, these people are specifically new bodies alongside the Glass of Conchita. Doesn't seem like the demon taking a new title.

Now for Sickle--would it be wrong to just take the top image and edit Allen out, like how we scrub text from Manga images? ^ ^;; That way we don't have the zoom-in that makes the image look so threadbare, but it's the same effect. If not, I guess I'd go with the bottom image. <.<;

If we do end up just putting Sickle in Minor Characters, I would agree on putting him in Deadly Sins Series. Sickle has retroactively been present in every series, so the only deciding factor should probably be that he showed up in a Deadly Sins of Evil guidebook.