Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-6192846-20140612134000/@comment-6986530-20140826211035

Ma's motives are unknown and Irina's motives (outside of doing evil for the Lulz and making Elluka suffer) are unknown. (Also Ma was the one that said Irina wanted to make a wish; I don't know if she's especially reliable that way.)

There's no real conflict when we don't know what the other wants (Ma's MO is even very similar to Irina's though, in my opinion. Inducing someone to get possessed, manipulating children, setting up accidents, having connections that give her information, etc.)

As for whether or not she's behind Nemesis, if she was still in contact with her why wouldn't she just have her daughter bring over the Vessel of Wrath rather than go through that whole Capriccio Farce fiasco?