User blog:Servant of Evillious/Seven Deadly Sinners: Sateriajis Venomania of Lust

Introduction
For those of you who bother paying attention to what I say (and really, why do you?), you are all aware that I asked for reader's opinions on who I should analyze next: Venomania or Riliane. Clearly, Venomania won out by a landslide due to fan appeal and --Okay, he just left. Please... I need your help... he's got me tied to this chair at my keyboard! He got too impatient after all the months I spent delaying the blog until the translated manga fully released on tumblr. He can't take it anymore. He threatened to stab me with his sword... I DON"T KNOW WHICH ONE!!!! Q.Q Quick, somebody tell them the duke has abducted me and is forcing me to write up this blog for his own pleasure before he- but you all know about how great and wonderful Duke Venomania is and what a swell, totally not creepy and dangerous man he really is. So let's move on.

My intent with this blog series is to improve upon each analysis as more information is revealed about each Sinner. After all, there are untold amounts of time between mothy's new releases and our translations so there is quite a gap before we learning everything about each character. So I ask you forgive me if you find information added upon or changed at any point in the future when you go back to look at this blog. I have already done so with my Conchita analysis in the past so I have a precedent for doing this into the future.

The purpose of this analysis is to peer into the mind and life of Venomania and expand upon the themes played upon by mothy. In no way am I attempting to justify the duke's abhorrent actions or downplay the severity of his crimes against humanity. However, a wise person once said that "everyone thinks they are righteous" and it is important that we realize how prevalent this theme is in the Evillious Chronicles. Mothy plays heavily on why characters commit evil, even if the reasons don't justify the fallout that ensues.

As a result, let's pour into the life of Duke Sateriajis Venomania, the Demon of Asmodean himself...



Disclaimers
Now before I delve into this, I am going to say for all you pre-teens out here (I have met enough of you already; I know you exist): Don't read this if you don't want to read vulgar and/or sensitive language. I could be as pc as I want and it won't change the subject matter. So I am just going to be honest with it.

If you aren't mature enough to handle that, I suggest you go to youtube where immaturity about this thrives or simply get out of this series while you can. If you can take murder, heartbreak, cannibalism, and people with social or psychological disorders, you should be able to stand this.

On another note, since those who read my above disclaimer should have left, before I get the comments saying "Oh, but Venomania has an excuse", "That's not fair; it was consensual", or "I can't believe they left him after coming to their senses", I am going to ask that you grow up. Regardless of his reasons (and yes, there were many social injustices inflicted upon him), there is no justification for rape, and it is indeed rape. These women were brainwashed and induced to enjoy it beyond their own volition.

But non-conesentual sex doesn't make it rape. One of our Admins on tumblr, Wisdom, summated the notion perfectly in one of her reblogs. Rape is the domination of your victim. You want to break them, you want to humiliate them. You want to make them lesser than you. Sex is merely the tool with which men (and women too, it happens both ways) deprive others of the human dignity most "free" societies agree we are all entitled to have. You want to make jokes? Take that youtube link above but keep it out of here.

Sateriajis Venomania
Now I am sure that many who saw the song with Duke Satamariatis Venomania (I dislike typing that first name) were thinking, "Not much to this guy. He got made fun of by people and his childhood friend and decided to deal with dark powahs." Well mothy took that notion you had, sprinkled some troll varnish along the edges, and slapped you in the face with it, saying, "WRONG! Venomania is not Venomania, trololololol!" Turns out Sateriablabla Venomania originally was a poor, deformed boy hidden from the rest of the world named Cherubim; the actual Sateriawhozitsa Venomania is his younger half-brother.

This brings up a very powerful and unexpected theme from media. Often times, lust is represented as feminine, alluring, and beautiful on the outside while this is a theme used to portray how characters are beautiful on the inside. Mothy likes twisting fairytales and common tropes to his liking though so I am not overtly surprised. This theme is also not uncommon. The concept of deformities being treated as demonic has existed in our real life history and fits the medieval era that inspired the setting of The Lunacy of Duke Venomania.

However, while these tropes are used to craft masterpieces like Phantom of the Opera and The Hunchback of Notre Dame, Cherubim develops his in a rather unique fashion as he is given power that most characters suffering these circumstances aren't provided. It also brings to light how deep of a character Duke Venomania is, and how his swift vie for power followed by a swift downfall occur. It is a somewhat tragic story in many ways and there is a huge theme of "escape" like there was with Conchita.

Origin
It is not a stretch to say that no one expected this. The facts revealed about Venomania were never hinted about in the Story of Evil novels preceding them and much of what we interpreted from the songs were discovered to be more literal than we expected, especially with full translations of Wiegenlied giving us a better idea about what the Seven Deadly Sins are and what it entails to "commit" them. It needs to be understood that the Sins are magic, and that the vessels of sins are simply objects that were possessed by Demons. Each Demon resides in the vessel and can form a contract with a human, whether that human wants to or not, and will possess the human to take advantage of their weaknesses.

As a result, the Demon of Lust takes advantage of someone's lust. In general, this "lust" has to do with personal desires related to sexual attraction. Otherwise, the Demon simply takes the desires of a person, their goals or hopes, and increases how passionate they feel about it, to the point of blinding them. I say all this now because it makes Cherubim's beginnings fit so much better than if he was just a noble with too much testosterone. The boy had nothing, he was given nothing; he wanted it all.

Whether Cherubim fully understood his origins or not, he eventually came to realize he was locked in his father's basement because of his ugliness and was denied anything the birthright of Venomania should have granted him. He is entirely alone. He was likely miserable, and who knows whether or not suicide became a consideration of his like it often was for Clarith. His life only knew the bottom. Then, his brother comes when he is maybe 14-15 and changes everything. His brother was kind, loving, caring. He accepted Cherubim for who he was and became his first friend. Because of his half-brother, Cherubim meets Gumina.

Now, based on my limited knowledge of being a human of the male variety, I am going to hazard that a pre-teen seeing his first girl is undoubtedly a recipe for romantic disaster. Since she's a noble, you can already guess that she has been "bred" to be a good looking child (at least until the side effects of inbreeding kick in) and that she treated him well since they became childhood friends. For this boy, this is the first time he goes stiff when seeing someone, in more ways than one. His heart is a flutter, and suddenly he has fallen for the most beautiful (and maybe only) girl he has ever seen.

Now, I am going to make a sidestep into "love". The term in English, "love" has multiple meanings. Often when a boy says, "I love you," and a girl says, "I love you," they are meaning entirely different things. To break it down, I will bring up the Greeks. There are three words in particular I want to discuss, and they all translate as "love": Éros,Philia, and Agápe. Eros is very much the physical love we know of: passionate, romantic love and especially lustful love. This is the love the boy says to the girl when she asks, "Do you love me or my body?" The guy says, "I love you," but he really means the latter, more times than not in my experience.

Philia is the friendship kind of love. It is that comradery you have among fellows who you share mutual interests in. The people you hang out with and are loyal to are the people you "love", though it is a deeper yet more platonic kind of love. Agape is the love everyone likes to idealize in their head but sometimes don't mean.

This is often times the kind of love the girl tells the boy. It is a love that gives and expects nothing in return and is how people idealize the romantic love of "eros" to develop between two people in a relationship. However, the amount of failed relationships, marriages, and brokenhearts tell us otherwise. Every time I hear a young woman say, "But he told me he would change," I shake my head with a snicker.

I am sure some older members of this fandom understand this better than I do when I say this: If the guy didn't change for you before the ceremony, he isn't changing after either. Now, this is not to say that Eros is a bad love. In psychology, all three "loves" in balance is often considered a healthy relationship: your significant other is your friend, your sexual partner, and your always-giving and never-receiving counterpart.

We see some of this with Cherubim, Gumina is his friend and he has a romantic affection for her, as he a young boy his age should. That's normal for all of us at that age. However, as he continues to harbor this hidden affection, the other aspects of his life come into play. Ultimately, Cherubim is forced out of the equation and is never considered a part of it. Regardless of his antics with his brother and Gumina, the outside world won't accept that dynamic as they become adults. Similarly, there is no one to guide the boy about his feelings. No one is there to teach him morality, to teach him how to vent, to teach him how to function as a normal human being in society. All of that passion builds up inside him for years and inevitably will burst.

Where it Began...
Cherubim learns of Gumina's engagement to his brother. Likely, this was a decision made years before they became young adults and the poor boy never knew. Now, he is absolutely broken inside. All those feelings just burst like shatter glass and fall into the abyss of despair. At this point, I see the final piece of the issue come into play. When your brother is your only friend to love he is also your only friend to hate. The love of his life, Gumina is snatched away from him because his younger half-brother is handsome, because he doesn't have some remnant of a face plastered upon his cheek.

Imagine the self-hate Cherubim must have felt. He is called a "Demon Child", a monster, a "thing that does not exist", among others. His very existence is considered a stain. He probably felt that same way about himself for a while and now, after tasting a bit of happiness, relief, and hope, he is returned to the darkness. Would you stand for it? No.

"Why should I have to change for them?! They're wrong; not me! They're the monsters. They're the ones hurting me. They're the reason I can't be happy. If they didn't exist, my life would be fine."

Suddenly, arbitrary discriminations lurch up against the ones who point and laugh. The victim wises up and suddenly, like a cornered dog, bites back. Of course, if the dog has neither fangs nor claws, how can he fight? That is when I.R. comes in. Suddenly, as if some guardian angel came to rescue you, a woman arrives with promises of power. Power... such an amazing word. The meaning behind it creates and destroys men, one way or another. Cherubim never had power. He wants power. He lusts for it. Why not?

"They made a fool of me. All of them. If I was born beautiful like my brother, no one would treat me this way. They're monsters. I won't accept them! They deserve to die! They should die! I hate them! None of them love me! None of them understand! Monsters! Just die!"

Each person's interpretation will be different, but I personally see Cherubim's flashback of Gumina in the song to be very subjective. Considering the way the manga explains events, it sounds more like Cherubim had mustered the courage to leave his basement during the day. Much to everyone's shock, he arrives to find a party or some other event and discovers the engagement. Suddenly, that child is laughed at and humiliated by all these people he never dealed with before. He is naturally an introvert and can't take all this jeering. When he looks for some emotional support, he just sees Gumina, looking down at him in surprise. However, he doesn't see it as surprise but more jeering. He's vulnerable and defensive, and so he remembers everything perhaps differently than how it happened.

I can't say for certain but the above scenario is the vibe I got from the song. Gumina's glazed over expression when she, moments before, appeared concerned if not a little shocked tells me Cherubim took things the wrong way. Ultimately, the damage is done already. Gumina has been grouped with the rest as just another person who wronged the boy. In his eyes, the love he had for her is off. And so, everything falls into place.

"I want them to feel vulnerable. I want them to suffer. I want them to love me. I want them to love me. I want them to be powerless before me. I want them to be under me."

Quickly, you see the chain of thought of a boy who is caught up in his broken heart find its resolve. He doesn't just want to make himself their equal, he wants to flip the tables. He wants to demean others, he wants them to be lesser, to be considered lesser than human. Absolute power corrupts absolutely and Cherubim sees all the possibilities. As soon as he was presented with that sword, it is likely that the Demon of Lust had already affected him. It latched onto that broken love, that hateful desire, that vulnerable exterior and turned it into a passionate fire. Similar to Gast, Venomania may have been pushed by the Demon to consider the murder of his family the only option. Perhaps it was a thought at the back of his head or just another random whim he desired fulfilled.

Either way, Cherubim's envy of his brother resulted in him taking what he perceived as his brother's greatest strength, his handsome visage. This theme of escape reaches it height and the fallen angel with many faces transforms into Duke Venomania the demon. Finally, he seals a contract with the devil, giving himself to his Lust. This is very much symbolic as these events literally happen.

Method to His Lunacy
Now that Duke Satarilalalol Venomania has been given such power, we see the duke we all remember from the song. And I am not going to lie, he's a big **** (interpret that as you will). This is a guy that really irks me because of how conceited he is. Could he be any more of self-assured in his power's absolute control? The worst part is that he can! I mean, any woman who even looks at him is already in his clutches to follow his whimsy. Venomania parallels Riliane in so many ways because of such vanity. He thinks of women as toys, they are like dolls to him. He plays with them, he uses them, he gives himself the choice of whether to drag out an unreal relationship or to simply skip to the climax.

I am sure most men, if told they could do this, would be going, "Sweeeet," among many other unrepeatable things. Venomania has a rather scary power, and thinking about someone having such abilities in the real world gives me shivers. It is just terrifying to be a woman. Based on our limited info from the novel, there is even a lesbian who falls for Venomania, and his power only discriminates if he does so.

However, that is not the focus. What we are looking at here is how the duke sets himself up. For one reason or another, he is gifted enough to run Asmodean effectively and is famed in history for having pushed for its military and economic growth. Because of his abilities with memory manipulation, I am sure anyone who knew of Cherubim's existence or questioned what happened to the family simply forgot and believed whatever lies the Duke fed them.

With a powerbase settled, the Duke can now do his hobby on the side. Like mentioned earlier, you have to realize that the duke wants to dominate women and thinks of them as less than himself. He is very selfish and simply takes what he wants and plays with it like a toy.

Based on the manga, we can make a fair assumption that Venomania has done this many times before, almost like some roleplay. First, he makes the girl infatuated with him. Then, he drags on a brief relationship with her. Once he has her in his clutches, he tells her to come with him or asks for her to join his harem. This goes back to my boy vs girl outlook on "love". The girls in this relationship are hoping for a deeper, more meaningful relationship of agape while Venomania just wants to have an eros relationship, something passionate but no strings attached; once he is done with you, he just jumps to the next girl as if she is a sample at a buffet.

Understandably, these girls don't want that and so Venomania resorts to just forcing them to submit and making them madly in love with him. After taking away any bad memories they may have of him, the woman are "let go". Now I personally find this especially twisted hubris.

Besides the fact he lies to both the girls and himself that his harem truly "loves" him, he brainwashes the girls and then has them come to him! The message that conveys is that he is worth "chasing after", like he is something special.

Yet, you can see how this ties back to Cherubim's earlier desires. Women coming back to him as if they actually want him, as if they do love him. It isn't real but he likes to pretend it is, because that is what he truly wants. He just wants to be unconditionally loved. However, he has hardwired himself into believing that isn't possible and is blinded by his own lust. He wants one thing but accepts another as satisfactory. Either way, he never finds true happiness, just another concubine to attempt to fill the void in his heart.

That said, the method he uses is genius. Besides the fact he makes anyone who knew he was in the area forget about it, he gives the women a day or two before he leaves to come on their own. Unlike normal abductions, there is nothing suspicious about a girl walking along the road, and they can rationalize for themselves they need to escape without being seen or else the "relationship" she and Venomania shares may be jeopardized. Suddenly, it is a seamless disappearance and no one can connect the perpetrator. Proving himself an adequate liar, Venomania just has to act like he can't find any leads and it would seem like his sexual kingdom is set.

Epitome of Lust
Now, I am under no illusion that this is new in storytelling and I am not trying to portray either Venomania or mothy as reinventing bread and butter. However, it is a good set up for a plot that is arguably very classical in its approach. More thought seems to be given here than you see in a lot of classic fairytales were a familiar with and are a bit more grounded in reality than just a flatly summarizing, "Character A got hurt by Character B and is now the Kingpimp." There is a clear development which is why I personally and impressed with Venomania's origins. That said, his fall is predictable, as is all villains who show overconfidence.

Our duke believes himself invincible. As explained above, it sounds like he is pretty safe. The reality however is that he makes several critical mistakes, one of which is leaving witnesses. Regardless of how well you hide it, you are only trapping yourself as others on the outside begin snooping. If you don't make sure all potential witnesses are dead and that their deaths can't be traced back to you, you may as well confess now.

Whether on a whim or out of some peculiar respect, Venomania leaves Rajih alive. Hellish Yard, it could even be because he is confident no one will believe Rajih, which is what happens (further proving how the duke's arrogance set him up for failure).

The next mistake he makes is becoming so engrossed in his Lust. He just won't stop. Take a morning jog around the volcano long enough and eventually you are going to fall into the lava (and I am going to question why you live on a volcano). In fact, it is because he takes one too many women that his end occurs. Eventually, it becomes clear that the duke has deluded himself with his power and his selfish wants are distracting him from keeping himself incognito. He lacked caution.

Now, we don't know everything the transpires in the novel but I think I have a good idea. Kachess tells Meilis about what happens and either she becomes more directly involved or the duke simply decides he needs pricier game for his collection. Because of all the descriptions she is given as smart and intelligent, i think it is the former. I am not surprised if she offered herself as either a test for Kachess to find a flaw with Venomania or was "captured" as part of a failed plan to beat Venomania. This raises questions about why Meilis wouldn't reveal this to Venomania so I am sure these details are wrong in one or more places. Since Kachess now has a good idea about how Venomania's powers work based on what Rajih told him and what happened to Meilis, he probably deduced how to counteract it and took to wearing his favorite drag for thpse naughty birthday bashes nobles have on Tuesday nights.

The Daughter of Fog also gives us the impression that I.R. and Venomania has some falling out at some point. Either Venomania pressed her to give him more power or she simply lost interest as it became clear the duke's fun and games would come to an end. She may have taken the Venom Sword with her, although it is questionable if this mans the demon left with it. For all we know, so long as the purple fluid called "Bloodlust" coursed through his veins, the duke may have kept his powers. We can't be sure until we know what transpired.

It is also clear that Venomania's encounter with Rajih rekindled old feelings. Venomania remembers and comes to quietly accept that he indeed loved Gumina, which is supposed to be the love of "agape" I mentioned. He wants to live a long life with her, giving her what she could desire but has already become a nymphomaniac and is addicted to the simple arrangement he created between him and his harem. In many ways, he trapped himself emotionally from just being honest with his feelings and trying to start over, which harkens back to how he never learned to properly vent his heartbreak and express himself. While there is a lot of fault to spread around, the Duke's decisions were ultimately his own and he chose to do terrible things for short-term pleasure.

I think this manifests best in the song itself. At this point, our Duke's obsession has become overbearing. He becomes a Conchita of women, taking anything no matter how odd to satiate himself, including elderly women and children! Now, if you are going to tell me a 13-15 year old girl is okay, I ask you to take your tartis to the 1850s where you could get away with that.

As for the rest of us, it is clear Venomania's lunacy has gone out of control. It's like a drug where he constantly tries more and more to get his fix. In real life, this type of thing manifests commonly in pornography as people who become addicted to it require more and more aggressive stimuli to the sex to get their "fix". Eventually, this evolves into snuff films where the victim is recording being violently raped, brutally abused, and usually killed at the end of it.

With that in mind, it makes Venomania's wanton sexual pleasure all the more terrifying when let loose as he clearly just can't find something to satisfy him; he's already blocked out the solution in his mind. This breakdown makes even more sense when you see him burn his own portraits. Assuming my info is right (and it could always be wrong), Gumina continues to paint portraits of Cherubim after he becomes the Duke. The song describes how Venomania simply can't stand looking at himself (or rather, his brother) as it only reminds him of the pain. He has tried so hard to escape (there's that word again!) from his past and his own suffering and he just can't cut it off completely. Should everything else I have said be true, he is reaching the end of the line in both his external and internal struggle.

He takes Gumina and sees her as the one he loves and yet the one he despises. He wants to love her yet he wants to abuse her. He wants her happiness and yet he wants her humiliation. This dichotimy between right and wrong is a theme we always see with characters who try to escape their situation or even fate. Life has consequences and, looking back, all of Venomania's actions and attitudes show he has a child who tried ignoring the consequences. He wants the big boy perks without the responsibility. And so we reach the final act.

Kachess, disguised as a woman, gets close enough to the duke to stab him. With what we learn in the manga, this raises my eyebrow about something I never realized. How does the duke not notice? I have constantly asked myself "why" in the past but never "how". As pointed out before, he is very formulaic. His method is pretty straight forward. That said, how is it that he never realizes Kachess is a guy? Did the Marlon count so perfectly assume the role as a woman falling for him that his delusions of invincibility made him ignore the signs? I mean, it is already implicated that Kachess is "pretty" enough that Venomania wanted to add him to his harem (or maybe his standards went so low that he really didn't care if his next woman had the face of a man) so is that the case? It just seems like a peculiar scenario.

My only other rationalization is that Kachess just walked into the mansion and the duke believed "she" was just a visitor and tried instantly entrancing her. Either way, we know the result. So cocky that he is invincible (having already stolen a princess and even a queen without being punished), he doesn't foresee his own demise in that instant.

Suddenly, the pain strikes his chest, and he finds it hard to bleed. He stumbles back as the woman he embraced roughly lets go of him and removes her wig. He only stares in shock as he sees his white clothes suddenly turn red and watches his purple coat drip a stained crimson.

At this point, the duke's expression changes from shock to absolute pain. He collapses and looks to see his body leaking the Bloodlust infused within him. In barely a minute, all the woman return to reality and everything that happens is seen through clearer eyes. In horror at what they were subjected to, they begin to flee.

Some apparently were killed (hopefully not because of what I discussed above) but most are able to leave the mansion, abandoning the monster who tore them from their lives. In one instant, the invincible Duke Venomania becomes the vulnerable Cherubim again. He is alone, he is unloved, and he is miserable.

I can't say for certain until the novel is translated how Venomania felt in his final moments. Did he realize what he did was wrong? Personally, I don't think so. I think it was more that he realized he messed up and, if given another chance, would have been more careful with his actions. I don't think that necessarily means he regretted what atrocities he did in the same way a child doesn't necessarily regret doing something wrong but that he got caught doing it.

This is where moral outlooks are expected to differ between an adolescent and an adult. However, he is still someone to pity and I can see the tragedy playing out here. He never did express his feelings to Gumina and, as she leaves him, he desparately begs for her to hear his confession as if he can do one right among all these wrongs he has done. Regardless of whether he gave up calling for her or not, the duke's words fell silent once he succumbed to his bloodloss.

The Descendant Connection
I think a lot of us can agree: Venomania ruined many many lives. While religious zealotry and racism is not good, it is understandable for the time period and when we, the audience, know the duke truly was for all intents and purposes, a "demon", you can't argue why his spawn would be wickedly despised. Even the women believed themselves to be tainted, their virginity was taken from them, if not their pride. The full effects of Venomania raping them hits home-run once they have the freedom to properly see it.

Those women who couldn't find sanctuary lived beaten and awful lives, and the duke's legacy stretched for centuries, ruining more lives with each new generation of heirs with his blood. We have seen the effects this causes to people like Clarith and Zenon, people born and raised in Elphegort who are only hated. Even after 800 years, Gammon desires to rid himself of his family's "curse", whatever that means. Because of this, many characters are shaped by Venomania long after his death and roots himself deep into the lives of his relatives.

The Asmodean Connection
Ironically enough, it would seem Venomania's selfish actions triggered a lot of changes to society and politics. Asmodean itself becomes independent less than a century later, an event that must have some significance since mothy mentions it so closely after the Venomania Event and even has Asmodean culture look at Venomania as a hero.

Perhaps it was because of a political scandal to the outside world, where Venomania is seen as wrongly murdered by a foreign noble and later exonerated by the Beelzenian Empire. I can easily see this sowing distrust among the populace, especially since Venomania was such a good duke to the public eye. Suddenly, it just takes Beelzenia slightly aggravating the Asmodaens to spark a huge fire for independence as people become more and more disillusioned.

Given the history of revolution in the past 200 years of our real world, it is possible the Asmodean independence from the Empire invigorated Lucifenia to also rebel and separate from Beelzenia centuries later, as Asmodean's success would make anyone think, "It is possible." Should these dynamics be true, it shows mothy's attention to detail as there is a realistic cause and effect that makes the Evillious setting such an organic and fascinating world to read about.

The Demon of Lust Connection
Now we all know the Venom Sword is among the vessels that won't awaken. I have not hid my theories either that the reason for this is because the Demon of Lust left the vessel sometime after possessing Kyle.

For whatever reason, the Demon completely abandoned the sword and has disappeared. Until Praeludium and Praefatio are translated, we may not be given a hint what happened to the Demon and even then that is hoping mothy actually tried developing that loose end he created.

Until then, I am sticking to my theory that the sword and scissors aren't awakening because of their demons' absence. I find this especially true since more and more evidence directly connects the Demon of Gluttony to the Master of the Graveyard. Otherwise, we can only speculate. It is unknown what the endgame of each demon is for sowing so much chaos, especially since they act with an intelligence of their own.

It is clear the Demon of Lust was glad to make a contract with Venomania but for what ends? Do the demons all have their own plans and aren't working towards the same goal or do they simply all interact with their "victims" differently? It's an interesting dynamic that I want to see further elaborated upon in the future.

Closing Statements
With everything now typed up, I look up and think two things: that I have just wasted a good 5-10 minutes for you to read all this and that Venomania is a really cool character. There is a lot more to him than the song alone and I await the translation of the novel with glee. I consider him the Mcbeth of Evillious, a character damned by the intervention of others (ironically, witches) to end in tragedy although, at the same time, not faultless for causing his own downfall. I leave your feelings for the character as your own. Personally, I think I like Conchita more, mostly because she is a more classic villain of the devilishly evil variety which I have an affinity for.

So what are your interpretations of this character. Is he someone to be pitied? Is he a monster to be vilified? Was he doomed by Irina to commit his sin? Was everything caused by his own lustful will? Discuss!

Servant of Evillious (talk) 21:33, July 11, 2013 (UTC)

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