Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26965399-20160815203824/@comment-24.176.2.221-20160924025724

1. I wasn't saying the outfit was part of your argument. Simply that someone who might have been a Rin character earlier might have only been such because mothy did not have access to a differerent vocaloid and, as I was trying to use the outfit to illustrate, didn't have a clear idea for who she would be in mind yet. Like changing Riliane's dress design.

2. Yes I realized after making the comment that it was a joke. And the singer is not saying "you must better yourselves" she's saying "you humans are never satisfied". This could be an internal narrative, for all we know--outwardly encouraging but inwardly showing contempt. Which can be taken in line with the contempt for humanity that Irina displays (although I will say, Clockwork Lullaby does feel the least like Irina).

3. Irina does, however, display an attachment to Seth as her mentor, carrying out his mission. It can be interpreted, especially with SIHS's lyrical revision, that by spreading HER syndrome she feels she is recreating him that way. And every argument you make along these lines fit EVEN LESS with Levia. Because Levia was not created by anyone. She has a mother. She has never expressed any desire to recreate anyone, and there is no figure that fits that role with her.

4. I get your point but I wish you wouldn't insert your examples into a set of links like that because that makes them hard to parse through. Discussing one or two would suffice.

Connections to Levia are full of holes and based upon theoretical similiarities to a character that was made back before mothy had the entire series worked out in his head. His most recent attempts to reincorporate these songs into the mainstream canon have made enormous signs pointing at Irina, deliberately associating her with them. Considering all of that, I don't see how it isn't at least conceivable that mothy wants us to know/think it's Irina, whereas he has made no such efforts with associating it with Levia.