Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-6192846-20150304021219/@comment-6192846-20150403005457

I prefer the current ones, derailer. ;p Not that these are bad, but if I had to go with personal preference, I just like the current ones more.

66.139.154.224 wrote:

I think people are just so damn used to assuming RE_birthday is Allen that they don't want to change that assumption, even though we know Court's Irregular is associated with red and blue chains. I think a lot of people just feel putting a minor character section on the side for Re_birthday's character won't be arbitrary with all the ambiguity and reasonable doubt going around. We lack much info on Irregular aside from Re_birthday so the only definite fact to associate him with is the chains. I don't see any apparent Allen theory predisposition here, just the desire to leave it open to all the possibilities.

Anyhow, to compile all our info:

First the confirmed Irregular stuff...


 * Irregular is the mysterious boy in the Master of the Court's womb in Capriccio Farce. The CF PV portrays him in the attire of Allen Avadonia in blue and red chains and in a white, grid-like room; he hears the sound of the Clockwork Lullaby.


 * Irregular is the mysterious boy in the Master of the Court's womb in Master of the Court (song). She sings him a lullaby; the doll has previously sung the Clockwork Lullaby in Miniature Garden Girl and Heartbeat Clocktower. The kanji used for his name means poison/ill will/evil influence/malice/harm.


 * Irregular is the mysterious boy that looks like Allen and Hansel in Seven Crimes and Punishments (story). He was born from the Clockworker's Doll's stomach area and didn't fully develop an ego after his birth before the world ended. He considers the doll his mother and is described with empty-looking eyes.

Now the debated media...


 * The mysterious boy of Re_birthday. He is in red and blue chains and is trapped in a dark (black), grid-like room. He hears a lullaby from a spring (term used in "clockwork") voiced over by Miku. The box later becomes a white, grid-like box. He is reborn at the end after receiving the message; he has memories of a past he can't return to, voice over by Rin at the time.


 * Ma's commentary on Re_birthday in [[Evils Kingdom] booklet. States the "gear" was removed and that the "black box buried in the sand" won't be found. States the "story in the box" is of a boy alone in the dark with a spring, beginning his days of atonement. SoE page has Ma state "[Allen] is no longer one of the gears."

So with all this in mind, as well as everything we've discussed, what's the final tally? Do we assume this is all Irregular or that it's two separate characters for the time being?