Board Thread:Theories Discussion/@comment-13376834-20130430230244/@comment-6192846-20150910135551

23.122.217.39 wrote: So he couldn't have made Keel (or he changed his mind for completely arbitrary reasons even after improving the process so he wouldn't have to clone himself).

Or he quite simply halted production of the clones he had already been developing once he axed that method of producing ghoul children. Throwing them in cryogenic freezing like specimens stored for potential future use in later experiments doesn't sound unreasonable. Either way, it doesn't clarify the Keel angle in relation to HER Syndrome.

23.122.217.39 wrote: Irina could have worked under Seth's tutelage (possessing a Rin medium, probably) after he revived her. He could have survived long enough to pass on some of his knowledge and DNA for her, then told her to continue experimenting in his stead. Thus, she made the Freezis children, either under orders to create a new body for him that could be used when the time is right, or just missing her mentor. This would explain what she was doing between getting her cat body and seeing the 7 lights, as she still apparently hadn't considered getting revenge on Elluka until then.

It's also possible she started the experiments after Chrono Story--it doesn't affect things much if the order is different.

Fifth Pierrot points out that Seth was already really badly burned when Irina last saw him; she outright states he revived her as the cat and then disappeared, presuming he died. That isn't a lot of time to impart the knowledge you're implying.

Irina didn't know what she should live for until seeing the lights so whether she gave herself any interim purpose between her cat rebirth and her life goal of vengeance can go either way. We unfortunately don't know how much time lapsed between the two events.

Anyhow, in relation to Seth's final words before leaving her about continuing the experiment juxtaposed just before Irina sees the seven lights, we should keep the Lunacy narration in mind:

"However, I.R. knew that this katana was not forged in [Jakoku]. The scientist who turned her into a red cat also created other kinds of “seeds of malice”. One of the products from the experiment was this sword. [...] I.R. has constantly been searching for the vessels of sin. Why? Because those tools would be able to change normal human beings into people similar to her: HERs."

This may be all Seth meant and what Irina understood. Unfortunately, we don't know what Seth managed to share with her before he went off and died and when/how Irina learned what information concerning him between her revival and the events of Lunacy.

Also, should Irina be the character, which Rin would be her host and what would be the incentive to pick [x] Rin over [y] other human? Timeline aside, that's an important element in developing this theory since Irina eventually drops whatever body she had for Haru's over a century later.