Board Thread:Theories Discussion/@comment-12376798-20140718225027

Illogical, maybe, but after staying up for two days straight, and listening to the SoE series again, something...poked out to me. Add logic to this if you can, I don't mind.

So this is what glared out at me, you guys:

1.) The Seven Deadly Sins are called "Deadly" for a reason:

''      Bear with me here. Think of it this way. Out of seven sins, we know the fate of five, and four out of those five die '''due to their sin. '''The Duke was stabbed by Kaito in drag, Conchita ate herself, Margarita poisoned herself so that she could "sleep" forever, and Gallerian's house was burnt down because of him accepting bribes in the court room. We don't know the fate of the Wrath Sinner or Kayo definitely, but something tells me the Wrath Sinner and/or Kayo die as well.''

'So why didn't Riliane die for her sin? What made her so special that she could turn herself around and fix what she had done, becoming a totally new person?'

''      You can say Allen's sacrifice kind of hit home for her. This could be true. You might be right. But why? Allen, even after revealing his identity to his princess, was mentally and emotionally nothing more than another servant to her. Hundreds of her servants died without the bat of an eyelash from her. Even if his death did slap some (much needed) reality into her...what sort of sinner gets reality slapped into them? '''Gallerian faced this world's version of Satan with an offer that could get him out of hell and that greedy fella still denied it. Satan, you guys. '''So what makes her special? What if she was just a normal (if not dramatically spoiled and arrogant) girl that finally realized her wrongs, and was never possessed by any sort of demon?''

2.) We never see, in any Story of Evil novel, Riliane make a deal with the Demon of Pride:

''     We saw Sajiterias make a deal with the Demon of Pride in Lunacy, and saw Banica forge a contract with Gluttony in Evil Food Eater. So why did we never see Riliane form a contract in any of the books centered around her story? She was forcefully influenced by Gluttony, but gained no powers like her predecessors did, and we saw no powers hinting that she formed a contract with Pride, like this series implies. Forge a contract, get a special perk or power. No drastic personality changes, no powers, no appearance changes, nothing to suggest this. In fact, I think it was said in one of the novels (correct me if I'm wrong) that Riliane was always a spoiled and bratty child. Nothing changed. There is no literal contract shown in the novels, and there's no implied contract.''

3.) We never see her use any sort of power or special form aligned to Pride:

''     I mean shoot, Kyle used Pride's form. If Riliane was truly the sinner of Vanity, why didn't she pull out beast-mode OP seraph form? If Kyle had the mirrors for a matter of months and wasn't the Pride sinner, but could pull it off, why can't she? I would bet money if she had the means to turn into some ungodly creature to have a chokehold on her kingdom, she totally would. Lucifenian Revolution? Blasted to smithereens with the creature that very well could have killed the best swordswoman in the series without the intervention of Michaela. Allen would still be alive, and the kingdom would still be hers, theoretically, if she could have used the sin form that we've seen Sajiterias use, right? She never gains some innate ability like seducing women, eating and never getting fat or killed by what they eat, magically drawing wealth toward them, or the like. Again. If she could've used it, her personality would suggest she totally would. I'd assume Pride's would be something along the lines of '''making people submit to you whether they wanted it or not. '''This would've been pretty darn useful in the face of the Lucifenian revolution, once again. But...''

4.) Do we ever even see Riliane with the vessels of Pride?:

''     I don't remember it mentioning her ever possessing any of the mirrors, except in the beginning when she was forcefully taken over by Gluttony, and Elluka confiscated it. We see Ney, Allen, Kyle, and Prim with the Mirrors, but never Riliane herself. She had a Hall of Mirrors but it never mentioned her having a specific mirror that produced a demon that gave her all these wonky godlike powers, right? ''

My Verdict?

''Either this is one big inconsistency from Mothy, or we're in for yet another mind-screw by our beloved author. Get ready for bomb shells, folks, or at least (semi) reasonable questions that may never get answered. ''

But if Riliane isn't the Sinner of Pride...who is....? 