Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-6192846-20150326001739/@comment-6192846-20150416121035

180.95.18.6 wrote: Just a thought, is it possible Seth made six of the vessels and the doll came from somewhere else? I'm starting to wonder if Adam had a hand in its creation... It's possible. We have confirmation the key and sword were made by him. We'd have to learn more about Adam though to get a better idea if he would be involved in something like that. As is, we know virtually nothing about Adam and Eve as people outside their personal relationship.

As others said, the doll has been explicitly labeled as Irina's creation for a while now. It seems to be that one vessel that's an actual magic tool without the demon too, as mothy has stated in an interview.

Octofan wrote: He also said outright that Grim the End was the greatest of his creations, confirming not only that he created the Golden Key but implying he made the other vessels as well. Seth also stated his specialty was the transference of souls, so I don't see it as too unlikely that he put the other demons inside once he found them. I'm not sure if that's the necessary implication but we've had this talk and both agreed that's a strong possibility. The question is when the god kin escaped Sin and how the demons got into these vessels.

110.22.55.215 wrote: Right, going off what facts we have on hand, I'm going to ascertain that Levia was Sickle's scientific apprentice and that they created Sin and the Black Box. It seems to fit at least.

It's sounding more and more like the actual "god" name is more hierarchy-based and dependent upon their scientific-magical achievement.

Sickle being referred to by the Demon of Envy as a professor, Seth basing ghoul children off of Behemo's method of (artificial) human creation, labcoat-wearing Levia recognizing Seth's development of a device to draw people into one's inner psychological world, these are all vaguely dealing with a type of academia.

Not sure if that makes Sickle necessarily responsible for the creation of Sin and Black Box, but it's sounding a lot like there isn't much difference between a "god" and their kind, which would explain why Held was able to prop up Michaela as one with a little training. Hopefully, this will be elaborated upon more.