Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-6192846-20150326001739/@comment-6192846-20150406120336

GreekTelepath wrote:

Her issue sounded like it was just her being a living human that caused the problem. Nothing was mentioned about the contract part. It might come into play later though.
 * Hmm, it seems Gumillia is in quite of a pickle right now. Even if she killed herself, she wouldn't be able to go the Heavenly Yard because she's a demon contractor.
 * So let me get this straight: Seth is the Demon of Wrath, while Adam is just hitching a ride in the Golden Key? Reminds me of Banica and Gretel's situation.
 * Finally, if Seth is now in a mask (probably his true, manifested form like the demons in SCaP) and Adam is implied to be in the Marlon Spoon, what about the Golden Key? It's effectively an empty vessel now. If Len was able to access its shapeshifting powers in the Envy arc, that would mean it's a magic tool even without the Demon.

Seth states he and this "Adam" (presumably Adam Moonlit) are both the Demon of Wrath. Seth sounds like he's the actual demon demon and describes Adam as being somewhat like a leech. This Adam has also apparently been the more active of the two and been really sticking to needing anger/hate for the job. We don't know what Adam is though so it's hard to say how similar it actually is to Gretel.

Seth already states the mask is his true form. We also know that Nemesis was contracted to the Demon of Wrath according to SCP. Likewise, Seth as the "mask with a will/intentions" is given an unknown connection to Nemesis in the SCP booklet. I question whether or not Seth found a way to project himself to the vessel and act as the demon while staying on Gumillia's face.

Mangoshakekouhai wrote:

-Gallerian being delusional in JoC is now officially questionable, due to the existence of a different master of the hellish yard who's actually in the hellish yard.

-Is it possible to make a contract with the  Golden Key  Grimm the End even without Seth, it's demon, in it? Or will mothy pull another twist at us? Find out at the Judgement of Corruption Novel, release date 2016. :3 Gallerian's own reality is further questionable by the end of this book, where he's already having dreams of meeting said Hell Master and being judged. It makes whatever he actually knows/sees in JoC and how his actual meeting with the Master of the Hellish Yard after death (SCP doesn't tell us much except they've indeed met before).

Since the demons are said to be the source of contractors' abilities, then that means that someone or something should be back in the key by the time it's getting used for contractor slaying again. The Demon of Wrath's definitey somehow present by Nemesis' lifetime.