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Servant of Evillious wrote:

Atsuki-chan wrote: We also have no idea how the Vessel vanished from the Held Monastery. My bet's been on Irina. DoF makes sure Yvette words it that it was when Abyss I.R. attacks that she checks and finds it gone and can't seem to find it (though we know it ended up in Clarith's cupboard/cabinet before then already). But yes, we don't have anything confirmed about how it got out of it's seal or miraculously disappeared. On the Magic page, it mentions a spell to unlock locks. When you say "sealed away", I assume wherever it was, it was just heavily locked and not enchanted (magical locks can't be unlocked with magic)

Irina probably left the Key in Clarith's cupboard and left the rest to fate (assuming Allen wasn't to interfere, which he did), the same way she didn't expect Ney's soul to interfere with getting Rillaine repossessed by DoG. Instead of approaching Clarith like she did with Sateriasis, she left it all to her. (this is just speculation :3)

Servant of Evillious wrote:

Now if I was to step out into the speculatory sandbox and assume the Nemesis poem was 100% canon (including the first portion mothy deleted off twitter), then this is what I think we have:

''Although she was a symbol of righteous indignation for the people, her personal intention was revenge. There was no one who knew the truth. She was honored as a hero after the civil war. Soon, she became a dictator. ''

^ A symbol of righteous indignation (anger) that led a civil war and became a hero afterward; imo, that sounds like the Levianta Civil War that rebelled against Gallerian's ruling on General Ausdin.

In that same poem, we have mention of a movie theater, the golden key, no longer pulling the trigger of the revolver, and use of "her/she" pronouns. That reaffirms the timeline, imo, to be during the EC 980-1000 period.

We don't ever know what happened to the USE or the Levianta Civil War. We followed Gallerian to Hell after he died and all the album booklets don't specify who these visitors are or what the current affairs are outside the theater.

In the twit sounds, we have:

"Sinful man... Now, confess."

I can easily imagine that being Tony Ausdin, especially since the Levianta Civil War was sparked because his crimes were excused (and we don't know how exactly that rebellion started up either).

If that's the case, did our character become possessed by the Demon of Wrath and use the Golden Key to create a revolver (assuming the key can do that), holding her nemesis at gunpoint in order for him to confess his crimes?

If she became a dictator afterward; it's possible the civil war ended up splitting Levianta from the USE or even leading to a coup of the USE government.

Just some ideas I can contribute based on what we have though. They might be nothing. Does it sound like our GUMI character may be a rebel hero turned dictator? Maybe.

Is it Hitler/Nazi inspired? I can't say. Hitler's rebellion was an utter flop and he only gained prominence through political activism and campaigning; that'd be a much different scenario than what the above indicates.

The Nazi regime's hatred for non-Arian's is best known for their systematic genocides, but our potential Gumi characters sound like she's wrathful towards one man rather than entire races or peoples.

I just want to point out some things:
 * In JoC, it states that Ausdin was found in his backyard, murdered. It doesn't state how he died. I find it weird that he was killed rather privately rather than publicly executed. During the Lucifenian Revolution (and French Revolution) the rulers were imprisoned, then executed publicly to appease the masses. I think Gumi made it her goal to personally kill him, by her own hands (and bullet, hehe).
 * A civil war started in Levianta when Ausdin was exonerated of his crimes. The war probably started when anti-Ausdins clashed with pro-Gallerians (as in they supported his decisions)/pro-Ausdins. Our angry little Gumi probably took advantage of this and led the arson of Gally's house and Ausdin's murder (whether she didn't do it herself or not)
 * Elphes tend to be racist. :P We know this much, but whether it stopped completely or just dwindled down to very uncommon, I don't know. It's possible Gumi had a bone to pick with everybody, especially Tony Ausdin.