Talk:Ma/@comment-25565419-20131229223322

Why I'm starting to belive the theory that Ma=Irina and not Elluka:

1. She says that she's the doll's mother

2.She seems to know why Irina wants to gather the sins. So either Elluka somehow knew or we're getting into the "And that little girl was me" terriotory.

3. It's implied that she killed Michelle and Ms. Marlon by stealing Elluka/Kayo's body and using her ablity to summon the Amazing Octopus

4. Until the third novel comes out (and I saw a scan of the advertisment taken from the Waltz of Evil), we're not sure if Elluka got the Doll or not

and most of all: Ma has been a pretty unreliable narrator. Since she said a lot of things that not only don't make sense in recent releases (i.e. the Original Sin Act II) ,but don't make sense in general. For instance, some of us were discussing in the validy of the Elluka replacing the Sin of Envy with fake WESTERN scissors  if Snakeland is based on a pre-WWII Japan in the Waltz of Evil Discussion Board.

Ma, don't make me go Yukina on you!