Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-4698889-20190603012329/@comment-39316826-20190627012358

"You say this, but the story includes plenty of Pierrot-Era references too, and you also listed at least one Lust-era reference with Vivian. I do agree that the story seems to focus the most on Conchita and Daughter of Evil parallels for right now, though, but it also seems like in terms of period setting it's leaning more towards Pierrot era or at least the end of DoE era"

The era thing is tricky because there is no such thing as "it was fated to happen in all universe" so my theory about the era was more me listing all the references I could found and relate to Evillious timeline.

"Let me say first of all that I do not believe that TTDS is at all a "what if" AU of Evillious, and I don't think anything so far is suggesting that it is. I think that TTDS is just what the O & L novel suggested it is--a world that was retroactively changed from Sickle's meddling via distortions. I believe that it is now completely different from EC to the very core, as even the mechanics of magic are suggested to be different here. O and L is basically just mothy telling fans why there's similar terms in TTDS to EC when there's none of EC's context behind them."

I imagine "the distortion" as a "what if..." scenario. I mean like if it was just one thing that changed everything that came after it. But looking at a "core change" distortion I guess you are right.

"Just because the word for wraith can also be translated as "spirit" doesn't mean that Beritoad is specifically a forest spirit. He's most definitively a wraith, which is a species so far unique to the TTDS series (and a species that is way more widespread and capable of interacting with the human world than the forest spirits in EC are, to the point that you can have children with wraiths, which is obviously impossible to do with forest spirits.) Despite the terminology they don't even seem like spirits, apparently, they're solid and have mostly humanoid forms.

'A point of confusion for people on this point might be the fact that Beritoad is in an animal form right now? But the book and bonus story makes it clear that this is not Beritoad's original form and that he is accepting basically blood sacrifices to regain power and restore his original form. These are all things that make him very unlike forest spirits in EC. So it's also not guaranteed that he had an "earthling" past life, tho we haven't gotten to the inevitable crazy revelations about the TTDS setting yet."'

After reafing the last infomine the wraith thing clear up to me haha. And yes, the "weak form" is a good idea.

"I could see that, maybe not specifically Lioness taking over but the Lioness equivalent? Maybe the continents are to some extent the same, and TTDS is certainly going for a British feel."

If we have to abandon the "what if..." scenario type of world then, yeah I agree. Also the tower is the strongest point to the paralels in my opionion, or it just could be base in the real life rumor of the Big Ben Clock being used as a torture tower.

"That's interesting. I like that idea because it could mean mothy had this plot thread about Arth and Lich's relationship long before he brought it into play in EC. I don't know about the battle at Horaga Cave being specifically part of the contract, though."

If we take my "what if... type of world" and we keep the "wraith = forest spirit" then is more like a demon contract. If we dont the is just a "they ended in tie so they became friends and help each other heal" kind of thing where Hank was left behind by the lovestruck Romarius and for some reason Hank was mortally injured and at the same time Beritoad was injured by the other "good guy" (grey moral novel) and so they decided to help each other  and for that Hank betrayed her comrades. Or it was just because he is an TTDS HER.

"While I do believe Vivian is supposed to be a parallel to Elluka, she's more of a joke character that gets killed off to demonstrate how radically different the story is from EC than anything, not an actual sorceress."

I like to conect things and thats their connection but I really think is an insult to Elluka call Vivian her TTDS version XD.

"I don't know about Rack, but Gibbet explicitly has a mysterious past that Beritoad is trying to keep from her. If he's not behind Gibbet's creation, it's unlikely he is for the other girls as well. Though if it turns out that Rack is an irregular, from him or some other creator, and that actually comes up, that would again prove that mothy had some of the ideas he put late into EC already in mind long before (though since a lot of the irregulars stuff in Heavenly came off as kind of a gentle retcon, I have my doubts.)"

I can't say anything about this because I dont really have much knowledge so...

Thanks for reading it and I relaly liked your opinions, sorry for my bad redaction and english. English is not my"original language" (I don't know how you say t) and it's my first time comenting u3u