Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-6192846-20150214203742/@comment-6192846-20150216044600

112.208.114.69 wrote: Oh and, can i ask something? Has it been confirmed that Nemesis is Kayo's child? No, Kayo Sudou (Ma edition) hasn't been explicitly stated to definitely be the biological mother of Nemesis. Nemesis claims she is, just like she claims Gallerian is her dad, but we don't know the reasoning for these statements or if she is truly correct in her beliefs (doesn't help that Ma's a chronic liar and definitely a terrible mother to her). So we really aren't 100% certain either way.

Cause i have a rather farfetched theory concerning that. It was said that she was 'destined from the start' right? I think we know that she was made to become Wrathe by Kay/Elluka, but why her? If the fact of her relations was false, where did she come from? I don't believe a source has ever said that, but a lot of fans make note that Chrono Story represented wrath as white, then (post The Daughter of White) it is represented as green in Judgment of Corruption, Heartbeat Clocktower, etc. Fans generally take that to mean Clarith was the "destined" one but there isn't much indication otherwise.

Some fans speculate Nemesis is a reincarnation of Gumillia or some sort of creation by  Ma, if not her biological daughter who just so happens to resemble Gumina/Gumillia. Personally, I doubt it since this is mothy who doesn't let his major characters just so happen to resemble other major characters without there being a connection, but those are the theories for and against.

Nemesis supposes that her mother may have wanted her to go mad and lose all feeling save for wrath but Ma's intentions aren't made clear. Same with why she'd want her daughter to be possessed by the Demon of Wrath when her interests have consistently been to collect all the vessels of sin asap.

Even if their like, a century apart, what if Nemesis was connected to Kayo's (The real Kayo) daughter that died in the fire? it would make sense if somthing happened that made her lose her memories a bit, but has enough to be certain that Kayo was her mother. The time lapse is a hole in the theory, plus she could just be connected to gumilla in some way as well. But with the fact that sloth never existed and it was Eve all along, i ain't taking chances. Then you'd need an explanation why the original Kayo had an Elphe kid with her husband, unless you're supposing he was Elphe too, which leaves the hole as "why are all these westerners living in the far off land of Jakoku?"

Last one, If the 7 spirits in the ark are the deadly sins, why do they cause sin in specific aspects? Lie, why does one sin amplify Pride while the other Greed? Does it have somthing to do with Eve?

Do you mean the six god kin sealed in Sin? If they are related to the six demons, it may have to do with the Original Sin and what that is. It's hard to say with how vague these Original Sin Story things are.

We still don't know what causes Eve of all people to generate this Original Sin, just like we don't know why six god kin would end up being six demons for the vessels of sin when the Original Sin was split into seven. There's a lot of stuff for OSS that we don't know.