Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-23.122.217.39-20150626042307/@comment-25926003-20150726165130

I hope you will all forgive me for being that jerk who starts up another round of issues, but I would have to disagree on - something completely different from what everyone has been fighting about - cutting the "night" from the title.

I'm unable to copy and paste the original Japanese title so I'm going to write out the romanji instead, but, the title is Okizari Tsukiyo Shou. Double-checking, and "Tsukiyo" definitely means "Moonlit Night". Not Moonlit, Moonlit Night. It uses the kanji for "tsuki"("moon"), and "yoru"("night"). Moonlit night. If we're going to argue over accuracy and such, then cutting the "night" just ruins all arguments.

Now I understand the argument over redundancy, but if we're going to argue about this at all, then quite frankly all of the arguments presented are utterly pointless because they all rely on trying to stay accurate and literal and yet conveniently ignore the "yoru" kanji in "tsukiyo" that confirms that it's "Abandonment Moonlit Night Tale", not "Abandonment Moonlit Tale". Nevermind that cutting the "night" makes no real sense in English either - the story isn't moonlit, the story is about a night, that happens to be moonlit, because the moon being out on that specific night is important. Think of it like the phrase "Dark and stormy night" - yes, the "dark" may be redundant if you think too hard about it and "night", but the thing is, the night is being described as dark and story, because those qualities are important to the night being discussed. You don't say "Story of a dark and stormy", you say "Story of a dark and stormy night", because the story is about a night that is dark and stormy. Following the rules of English, the same should apply here.

"Moonlit night tale" isn't redundant at all. It's a story, about a night, a night that is moonlit. Simple as that. Cutting the night is not only completely different from what the title says, it imples the story is moonlit, when it's the night the story is about that's moonlit.

So I vote for either the literal "Abandonment Moonlit Night Tale" to go with the literal "Ending Moonlit Night Tale", or "A Tale of Abandonment on a Moonlit Night" to go with "A Tale of the Ending of a Moonlit Night" or however you want to go for that latter option. As long as the "Night" stays I'm fine. If I have gotten any of this wrong let me know!