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I'm not sure if I'm fully understanding what you're saying anon, but I don't think you've entirely picked up on what Octo is saying. Adam and Eve are most definitely in the loop themselves. Everyone in the Court Ending is stuck in the loop, the story is very clear on that.

The question is not "Do Adam and Eve the irregulars in heavenly become Adam and Eve Moonlit in the loop?", because we know at this time that must happen because the nature of the loop is that everyone becomes who they were originally (as far as it's described currently, it's a complete reset where everything happens the same as it did before--the idea that they could have somehow become someone else is a remnant of when we thought it was time travel). The question is more, "were they Maria's irregular children before they became Adam and Eve Moonlit?".

We know already that Adam is her child, so there's no problem there.

The thing that's up in the air is, when Kiril says that Irina will become Eve's mother, is he simply referring to the fact that she will eventually become the mother of the irregular Eve way in the future during the end of the world? Or is he saying that she was somehow Eve's mother as Maria in OSS?

It doesn't seem safe yet to assume either way imo, there's too much guesswork on how that would have happened.