Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-6192846-20140612134000/@comment-14867007-20140913211059

Hi, this is my rather very late reply to this discussion. (Man, it took me and hour to read everything I missed-)

I, personally, am for the page merge between Hellish and Nemesis. I know most of the problems with this lies in JoC and I can see why. However, let's not forget that mothy has deliberately labeled Muzzle to be the truth of the events and it's meant to show us that not all the events that transpired in JoC is meant to be the actual truth, showing us that Nemesis' perspective is meant to be considered true more so or less. We all know that Gallerian's perspection of reality is a little......skewed. (The man believes a two foot doll is his daughter. I cannot be surprised if he thinks his former assassin that came to kill him is the guardian of the underworld here to condemn him to hell.)

I know things are going to get messy either way. I agree with all Octo and Servy have stated and claim. There's no concrete evidence proving that Nemesis is not Master of the Hellish Yard besides JoC which is proven not to be the complete truth, whereas there's plently of concrete evidence supporting that Nemesis is Master of the Hellish Yard. I think it's a bad idea to have two pages claiming two "different" characters commiting the same actions.

I know some people are asking why we haven't merged other pages in that case like we're debating on now? Welp, for that reason was only due to Irregular, and, ambigious in general as well as creation wise. That's only because we haven't had that much information placed on them, whereas we have an entire albumn dedicated to Master of the Hellish Yard/Nemesis. If we consider everything the album has given us to be true, Nemesis is not some supernatural deity guarding the underworld and let's not forget this hasn't been the first time a human being has claimed one of those four titles. Not to mention MotC and MotG seem to have bestowed their respective titles on themselves as well.

What I personally am seeing from all of this is that Nemesis bestows the title of "Master of the Hellish Yard" upon herself. She's not the diety herself, but commits actions as if she is such. Just like what was most likely the role of its previous/actual master, she's ruling over "Hell" which in this case is Evillious. She will erase it of all its sins and thinks by destorying it all is how it'll be done. Gallerian is the only one who has seen "Master of the Hellish Yard" so far in this series and that was his perspection of her, given that his perception was a little skewed. It would explain why Master of the Hellish Yard and Nemesis looked different. Gallerian was just seeing the same person in different clothes and I don't mind MotHellY stuff being added into Nemesis' gallery.

I also disagree with making a page for the Nemesis poem going by all the points other users have made before. I am fine with making it into a trivia point of linking the poem elsewhere.

Now, now. I think a more problematic issue is how will we treat dear with our insane yet mostly beloved Gallerian if we do merge the pages? I'm currently trying to think of the most logical and plausible situation for the sequence of events but for the most part I think that just putting in what Gallerian had perceived and then adding in what actually happened if good enough. That's all I gotta say for now.