Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-6192846-20130812010713/@comment-6192846-20140507212944

Five months later but sure, I'll reiterate Dany's wish: Is the consensus still the same on these two getting articles?

Either way, I do want to bring up my previous point about the suicide/accident scenario.

Since we've gotten sources for the Japanese text of Act 2 (and I've done a rough translation), I don't see the "gloomy" term from the Chinese holding up:

※Because the Li family has invested a lot into this project, be especially careful with her treatment. Please do not overlook her safety.

※リー家は今回の計画に多大な出資をしているため、彼女の取り扱いには特に注意されたし. くれぐれも機嫌を損なうことのないよう.

Everyone's free to pick out an alternate translation but I find the key term (機嫌) can mean "mood, temper, spirits, humor" as well as "safety, health, well-being" and "good mood, chipper, happy, merry".

Outside of this booklet, the only defining quality about her is in Surival Ma:

A noble woman with haughty arrogance

驕り高ぶる女貴族

Imo, she is the least likely commit suicide out of everyone and therefore she would be the less believable (between her and Milky) to have done it. At least with an accident, it's a disgrace outside her control.

Listening to the first chorus again, I definitely hear Iroha and another deep voice, which sounds like Lily to me. No Miki.

Listening to the second chorus and I can clearly hear Miki contrasting with another deep voice, which sounds faintly like Iroha.

Outside of these choruses and the dialogue between Irina and Elluka, there seems to be no continuity with the singers, as all of them appear between choruses regardless of whether one of them should be killed or not.

All the above together makes me feel that we and the subbers made a mistake and we should label Ly as the accident and Milky as the suicide.