Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26965399-20160815203824/@comment-7342272-20160924022521

24.176.2.221 wrote:

2. Key word here being "assume". You assume that the La la la la la la la lu lu lu melody is from someplace other than the Third Period but there has been nothing actually saying that this is the case, or that that song is even the Clockwork Lullaby itself. Wordplay is the first song in the CL series, meaning the LU LA pattern is some form, arrangement, etc. of the Clockwork Lullaby. Ergo, FML contains the CL as well.

24.176.2.221 wrote: 3. At that time, Iroha did not exist for mothy to use. The usage of Rin is not 100% concrete confirmation that it is one over the other for that reason, particularly as she is depicted using Rin's official vocaloid costume, suggesting he did not have a specific appearance in mind for the character. It's like making a theory using Riliane's dress in the first PV--it's clearly outdated information.

Did I mention anything about an outfit? No, simply the Vocaloid being used. Still a valid point, but I mentioned nothing about Rin's outfit PV-wise. Rin has a futuristic sort of outfit, while the gods have a "long long ago in a galaxy far far away" thing going on (i.e. taking place millennia ago yet being more advanced than modern day) so it wouldn't be a stretch that Levia wore something like that in her youth. It's not like she wore that gray dress and lab coat all her life. Rin's outfit is based on sailor fuku. Maybe it's a uniform of some sort?

24.176.2.221 wrote: 4. The girl in the songs is not researching the duality of mankind. She is experiencing the duality of the world that she lives in. That is a distinct difference. None of Wordplay makes any mention of doing research on these topics, just trying to find the words to describe them, with particular implications towards a child learning new things. Full Moon Laboratory is about someone experimenting, doing greater and greater evil, with the goal of recreating someone, something that has nothing to do with Levia or researching Malice. She sings about learning words. The PV is very simple so it's not known if she learns them by researching or going out and experiencing things. She could easily be reading a dictionary or whatever Levia does for research. Someone is teaching her words. That could be a young Levia in college/whatever school she was in beforehand. The song is too ambiguous imo, she could be in a single room all this time reading books or reading/watching things on holo screens, or in school, or college, or experiencing these things.

24.176.2.221 wrote: 5. Irina is not only capable of putting on a labcoat (or having her possessed human do it), but as an HER and a stuffed cat she frequently distances herself from humanity, and in particular no longer considers herself human in her current form. 1) you took a joke seriously and 2) the singer of CL scolds humans for being greedy, while Irina encourages it. She is not disappointed in humanity in that regard, she loves to spread chaos and instilling sinful emotions in others. She's not teaching them a lesson about greed/desire, she's destroying all the gods have made to get back at Elluka/Levia. Is there any example of Irina using the Clockwork Lullaby, outside of songs, any version of it? She doesn't teach it to anyone, that I know. The singer of FML wishes to create the person who made them. Irina expresses nothing like this. No real attachment to Seth, who created her as a ghoul child and then as a cat, other than taking up his request to continue experimenting. No interest in any characters who resemble him. Hell, she even incapacitated one and pretty much caused his early demise.

24.176.2.221 wrote: Lunaca Labora is explicitly implied to be the location in Full Moon Laboratory. They outright say that that's what its name means. It was created by Seth in the Third Period, so it is impossible for Levia to be the character in the song for this very reason. Because we can't have more than one Full Moon Laboratory. Point is, there can definitely be more than one Full Moon Laboratory. Seth has a history of copying others... Behemo would know.


 * Octo responded as I was typing this so some points may not have been addressed