Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-6192846-20140918010005/@comment-6192846-20150101030332

We already have the demons actions and skeletons of their personalities written out in the individual Sin article. I am not sure if it needed a reminder, but it sounds like some replies aren't already aware of this.

The option to give any of the demons character articles would simply be expanding on the interactions like we do with our character pages (like how awakened vessels of sin are handled). It's not like we haven't kept a dedicated place for known information on the individual demons before (namely Lust, Gluttony, Pride, Sloth, and (to a lesser extent) Wrath).

Likewise, it isn't necessary to have their connection to the gods assumed in order to have these character articles made, as we can see with the existing Sin articles. And now that the policy for infobox images has passed, neither do we need to assume the animals on the album are the demons to give them their own pages. Placeholders can be used.

My personal position is that I feel we should make articles for the demons. A majority of them had character roles and interactions in the stories numerous times to rise them above being just glorified plot devices. The smallest of the articles would probably be Envy, and even then, the vessel and its demon have had plenty of movement from the New Four Horsemen Incident onward.

I agree on keeping the six kin connection out of it for now. While the Demon of Lust may be indicating a connection, said connection is vague and heavily interpretable. It'd be better to renegotiate this after we acquire and translate the full story, where more references or even clarification may be given. At best, we should add it as a trivia for the Sin and/or Demons articles imo.

Based on our short story, I personally think it's safe to assume the character on the cover is Allen Avadonia. Regardless of haziness, I feel we would be seeing Irregular in chains for that classification. Still, there's always the chance the rest of the story will end up touching on the Allen-Irregular connection and change things, so I am fine with us waiting on that option.

DaughteroftheforestCourt1 wrote: I'd been thinking that with all the wibbly-wobbly timey-wimey stuff happening, maybe MA's statementt about Abyss placing the box in the Clockwork Doll is partly true?

But then again, Margarita wasn't "pregnant" .. Ma never indicates the box is in the MotC. Only the songs MotC/Capriccio Farce in relation to Re_birthday indicate it. Ma in EK only indicates that the black box buried in the sand in Twiright Prank is the box Irregular is in.

As for the idea Abyss I.R. put the box in the doll itself? It's possible, though odd it somehow remained without coming up at all in relation to the Clockworker's Doll during Gift. It wouldn't answer the question of when Irregular entered the picture.

And given what we have on Sickle and Allen, it's hard to imagine this "Black Box" device could even fit in the doll at this point so I feel it would have to be a different one.