Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-6986530-20170327230407/@comment-24.176.2.221-20170331200937

Ziz-san is Seth. The octopus without his will is not Ziz-san. Case closed. The key can turn into an octopus but that doesn't mean that if he wasn't in it, that octopus would be a normal living creature living out its days in the ocean.

Comparing it to Irina is good for illustrating the point because that cat is not alive either.