Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-6986530-20170327230407/@comment-67.66.94.66-20170415152840

190.43.108.214 wrote: 67.66.94.66 wrote: I'm not denying a relationship. I never did. I just do not, at all, believe Waiter IS Riliane and think this is another case of people not being able to let go of the character--which is a common thing in this fandom, it feels, when it comes to Riliane and Allen especially. Her story is over for the most part. She's had two conclusions, and the entire Riliane thing barely played a part in Rin Miroku and felt more afterthought to please fans. But then, I never read her actions in SCaP as being her reverting and her being playful from context (I really can't see the prissy, prideful Riliane getting messy in a cake like that), and that's why she got so upset and ran off--Germaine taking things too far.

It's a bit difficult to blame people for not letting a character go, when story has shown us that Rillian can reborn, and she seems to have a connection with the Lucifenia mirrors.

Not to mention that the story of the character is not over, since Allen still wants to meet her.

I really hope not bother you, but I think the fact that you do not want to see Rilliane (or Allen) having another role could influence your refusal to the possibility that Waiter is Rilliane. No.

Riliane is not as relevant as Riliane fans want her to be to the overall story. Allen is, Riliane is not. That is why Riliane appeared nowhere in Pierrot and Rin being Riliane served only a minor, one-scene role in Tailor that I honestly think could have been removed completely and absolutely nothing would have changed plot-wise. It sered no purpose other than fanservice. Riliane can reincarnate, yes, but she's not a main character outside of her own story and I think that people have a hard time accepting this. I mean, you don't see me reading into Venomania being a bigger role than he is and insisting he has to have a bigger role than he does because we don't know where he is soul-wise until SCaP. Just because Riliane isn't mentioned doesn't mean much besides she's just plain not relevant to the story at that point.

I have a hard time seeing Waiter as Riliane when Mothy never really danced around about who Grave or the Demon of Gluttony was after a point (I feel it's obvious as of the SoE novels and the Twiright Prank stuff, since I believe she directly references Arte and Pollo), and the people he has danced around about (Master of the Hellish Yard!Gumi and Irregular especially--even Ma he danced around about) have been people completely unexpected from who we thought they would be--we thought the former was actually the Key manifested, then Nemesis, and were dead certain that Irregular was Allen as we knew him. If she were Riliane, I think he wouldn't have danced around about it by now. It would have come up somewhere else, somehow, just like how he purposely had scenes with Gumillia and Seth and how he squeezed in Irregular in SCaP. It wouldn't have been hard for Marie to taunt Allen about Riliane having previously been at the theater in SCaP, or one of the other people to comment on it in the Pride section there. There's not a reason to hide it if she is Riliane, after all, but there is if there's a twist and she's not someone we expect.