Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-6192846-20150822000535/@comment-6192846-20160504183838

MaxusFox23 wrote: Emuei wrote: 3. I think with Kiril holding a knife in his arm at the end, HER has re-emerged inside of him. That does remind me... Elluka fully eliminated or just supressed Kiril's HER syndrome? The former but that's still vague on what it means. This condition carries over in the soul and Elluka's unique method isn't known. At the same time, does wanting to murder a HER who killed your beloved and drove you to despair really require you to be a HER? I'd certainly prefer that wasn't the case, especially since he doesn't even go through with it in the end once Levia and Behemo decide to use him.

Adept-eX wrote: CaptainLudisimo wrote: Along with the other vessels being shown (or referenced), is it just me or is Kiril's knife golden? Like, it's the vessel for Wrath?

Bit rabbit-traily, but I find this interesting... Kiril having the golden knife, and he revived Levia aka Master of the Hellish Yard... the same title Nemesis has, and she uses a key-version of that same knife (if it is the vessel). Reference maybe? Yeah, I noticed the same. The color of that dagger is suspicious. Also, it seems to be the same blade used by Irina when she stabs Elluka. Definitely there's a connection there

By the way, if Seth words are right, he started to create the Vessels of Sin after he was expelled due his human cloning experiments, until he was readmitted into the Project MA when Adam defected, so it's not absurd to think that Seth lent the future Vessel of Wrath to Irina and eventually ended in Kirill's hands after the murder of Elluka. It looks pretty clear to me that they're not the same blade; ignoring the fact the blade colors are different, their shapes don't even closely resemble one another. You can argue Kiril may have Grim the End, but it's big jump to assume Irina had it too imo.

Seth wasn't "readmitted" into Project Ma after Adam left. Adam fled, he took over, Meta fled, his human experiments were discovered, he was fired, and somewhere between then and Survival's events, he was put back in charge. When he started experimenting with trying to create the vessels of sin is vague so it is possible he passed it on though it seems silly he would want to experiment on Irina while giving Kiril a means to assassinate her.

66.139.155.97 wrote: I definitely think those are some very purposeful references with the sins. I do have a theory and pose a question: if Seth was able to escape the Ark, why not any of the other Sins? Only a theory, but it would explain better why, say, the Demon of Gluttony knew what vaccines were without it being "somehow remembered life before being sealed." I definitely think we're building up to something big reveal-wise. The Demon of Gluttony's vaccine memory can also be hand-waved the same way Elluka Clockworker's residual memories of Levia have been: the sealing process post-reincarnation is imperfect (at least for gods/kin). What exactly would this theory be?